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Mark Reiss Volunteer tester Joined: Nov 13 06 Posts: 5 ID: 225 Credit: 7,897 RAC: 0	Message 3805 - Posted 25 Feb 2008 21:32:40 UTC
	Hi: I just noticed that 1 of my wu's got 0 credit - even though it seemed to complete properly. Please check it out and let me know why I did not get credit. The task took over 1.98 hours to complete. WU: 488 Task: 1517 (Tasks 1518 & 1519 got credit) Thank You -- Mark Reiss ____________
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zombie67 [MM] Volunteer tester Joined: Sep 18 06 Posts: 207 ID: 114 Credit: 2,817,648 RAC: 0	Message 3807 - Posted 25 Feb 2008 21:36:20 UTC - in response to Message ID 3805 .
	May be a HR issue. This project used to require some pretty complicated HR rules. But I don't think this last batch was sent out using HR. ____________ Dublin, CA Team SETI.USA
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Andre Kerstens Forum moderator Project tester Volunteer tester Joined: Sep 11 06 Posts: 749 ID: 1 Credit: 15,199 RAC: 0	Message 3813 - Posted 26 Feb 2008 2:32:24 UTC - in response to Message ID 3807 .
	Yeah, something seems to have gone wrong with the HR here. It should have been on, but for some reason it didn't. The config file on the server definitely has the option enabled. Might be some new boinc code that we aren't aware of yet; I noticed some new HR stuff in the latest checkout. AK May be a HR issue. This project used to require some pretty complicated HR rules. But I don't think this last batch was sent out using HR. ____________ D@H the greatest project in the world... a while from now!
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Mark Reiss Volunteer tester Joined: Nov 13 06 Posts: 5 ID: 225 Credit: 7,897 RAC: 0	Message 3815 - Posted 26 Feb 2008 4:29:08 UTC
	Hi: Just noticed a 2nd WU without any credit: 1: WU: 488 - 7,151.45 seconds (1.9865 Hours) Task: 1517 (Tasks 1518 & 1519 got credit) 2: WU: 514 - 6,463.56 seconds (1.7954 Hours) Task: 1595 (Tasks 1596 & 1597 got credit) Is anybody else having this problem also? Mark Reiss ____________
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zombie67 [MM] Volunteer tester Joined: Sep 18 06 Posts: 207 ID: 114 Credit: 2,817,648 RAC: 0	Message 3819 - Posted 26 Feb 2008 5:29:40 UTC - in response to Message ID 3815 . Last modified: 26 Feb 2008 5:30:02 UTC
	Is anybody else having this problem also? I have two results with "0" credits awarded so far. I think we can expect this to happen occasionally until the HR issues get straightened out. ____________ Dublin, CA Team SETI.USA
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Saenger Volunteer tester Joined: Sep 13 06 Posts: 125 ID: 79 Credit: 411,959 RAC: 0	Message 3862 - Posted 29 Feb 2008 5:40:19 UTC
	It seems that different OS give different results, at least according to the validator. I'm the only Linux puter for my 5 results , and if the validator doesn't behave a bit more lenient towards this issue, I expect no credits for my probably valid results. Is there a possibility to make this so? I have no knowledge about the inner working of the validator, only the macroscopic explanation, that it compares the results and looks if they are within the same range. And I have heard that there is a possibility that it looks whether they are absolute the same bit for bit. This should not be done at the moment, as the results for different OS are obviously not the same bit for bit. ____________ Gruesse vom Saenger For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki
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zombie67 [MM] Volunteer tester Joined: Sep 18 06 Posts: 207 ID: 114 Credit: 2,817,648 RAC: 0	Message 3863 - Posted 29 Feb 2008 5:59:48 UTC
	We went through all of this before. The app requires very strict/complicated HR rules. More than on any project. Therefore rules were implemented, and all was good. Since the move, the server was updated (yes!), but broke the HR implementation. So the last batch was sent out without HR. So we will all have to wait until they re-implement HR with new WUs to get back to where we were before. ____________ Dublin, CA Team SETI.USA
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suguruhirahara Forum moderator Volunteer tester Joined: Sep 13 06 Posts: 282 ID: 15 Credit: 56,614 RAC: 0	Message 3864 - Posted 29 Feb 2008 7:38:39 UTC Last modified: 29 Feb 2008 7:57:53 UTC
	To remember what was going on in this project; here's a paper written by Ms. M.Taufer et al, namely Homogeneous Redundancy: a Technique to Ensure Integrity of Molecular Simulation Results Using Public Computing . This paper explains how HR works and why it's required. And the latest one which mentions this project is maybe this one: Moving Volunteer Computing towards Knowledge-Constructed, Dynamically-Adaptive Modeling and Scheduling . It's worthy to be read ;-) thanks, suguruhirahara ____________ I'm a volunteer participant; my views are not necessarily those of Docking@Home or its participating institutions.
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Michela Forum moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Project scientist Joined: Sep 13 06 Posts: 163 ID: 10 Credit: 97,083 RAC: 0	Message 3867 - Posted 2 Mar 2008 20:27:03 UTC - in response to Message ID 3863 .
	We are working on the new HR code and will test again when the changes are in. It turns out to be quite tricky to integrate our previous HR changes in the new boinc code. We went through all of this before. The app requires very strict/complicated HR rules. More than on any project. Therefore rules were implemented, and all was good. Since the move, the server was updated (yes!), but broke the HR implementation. So the last batch was sent out without HR. So we will all have to wait until they re-implement HR with new WUs to get back to where we were before. ____________ If you are interested in working on Docking@Home in a great group at UDel, contact me at 'taufer at acm dot org'!
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David Ball Forum moderator Volunteer tester Joined: Sep 18 06 Posts: 274 ID: 115 Credit: 1,634,401 RAC: 0	Message 3874 - Posted 6 Mar 2008 19:49:06 UTC
	I've noticed that Walmart is actually selling a Vista system with the Via C7-D cpu. I guess that means another HR class needs to be added. ____________ The views expressed are my own. Facts are subject to memory error :-) Have you read a good science fiction novel lately?
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Andre Kerstens Forum moderator Project tester Volunteer tester Joined: Sep 11 06 Posts: 749 ID: 1 Credit: 15,199 RAC: 0	Message 3876 - Posted 8 Mar 2008 22:47:03 UTC - in response to Message ID 3874 .
	Oh fun! Hope Michela will make some inroads in the next years to make charmm less platform-specific. Still working on the HR stuff. Kind of busy with my 'real-world' job and Abel with his classes that have started. There is hope that a new postdoc will start soon though who can keep this project getting forward more consistently (and faster!). Keep your fingers crossed! Andre I've noticed that Walmart is actually selling a Vista system with the Via C7-D cpu. I guess that means another HR class needs to be added. ____________ D@H the greatest project in the world... a while from now!
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