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Message 3025 - Posted 13 Apr 2007 6:02:58 UTC

One thing with the new app. With 5.02 the crunching time is about 1.34 hours with the 5.05 it is about 11 hours on all my Intel Macs
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=151693

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Message 3026 - Posted 13 Apr 2007 14:01:07 UTC - in response to Message ID 3025 .
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One thing with the new app. With 5.02 the crunching time is about 1.34 hours with the 5.05 it is about 11 hours on all my Intel Macs
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=151693

I thought my 29% increase on Linux was bad. That is somewhere around a 610% increase. Seems something is amiss on the 5.05 app.
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Message 3027 - Posted 13 Apr 2007 16:35:20 UTC - in response to Message ID 3026 .

Does this happen on all of your workunits? We tested extensively on Intel and PPC macs and running times between 5.02 and 5.05 were approx. the same on our lab Macs. We will retest and see if we can reproduce this.

Thanks for the report.

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One thing with the new app. With 5.02 the crunching time is about 1.34 hours with the 5.05 it is about 11 hours on all my Intel Macs
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=151693

I thought my 29% increase on Linux was bad. That is somewhere around a 610% increase. Seems something is amiss on the 5.05 app.


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Message 3028 - Posted 13 Apr 2007 19:37:35 UTC - in response to Message ID 3025 .
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My intel Macs too.

Macbook 2:50 hours -> 5:30 hours
5.02, Macbook (2GHz/1G RAM)
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=149362
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=149256
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=149142
5.05, Macbook
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=153016
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=153027
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=153263

iMac 2:20 hours -> 5:15 hours
5.02, iMac (2GHz/1G RAM)
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=150172
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=150305
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=150213
5.05, iMac
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=150399
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=150891
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=151027

One thing with the new app. With 5.02 the crunching time is about 1.34 hours with the 5.05 it is about 11 hours on all my Intel Macs
http://docking.utep.edu/result.php?resultid=151693

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Message 3029 - Posted 13 Apr 2007 19:38:48 UTC

This happens on all 6 Intel Macs with all WUs.

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Message 3038 - Posted 14 Apr 2007 21:05:07 UTC

Sorry if you've thought of this before, but did you recheck your General Prefs page? Perhaps you're only using one processor or maybe the setting changed to only use 25% of the cpu or something.

I know you've probably already looked into that, but I thought I'd throw it out there, since it happened to me recently! My max processors was set at 2 instead of 4 (or the new default of 16).

Good luck with your problem! :-)
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Message 3040 - Posted 14 Apr 2007 22:49:21 UTC - in response to Message ID 3038 .
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Sorry if you've thought of this before, but did you recheck your General Prefs page? Perhaps you're only using one processor or maybe the setting changed to only use 25% of the cpu or something.

I know you've probably already looked into that, but I thought I'd throw it out there, since it happened to me recently! My max processors was set at 2 instead of 4 (or the new default of 16).

Good luck with your problem! :-)


Actually, I just noticed that the same thing is happening to me. Where it used to take 1:45 or less per workunit, now it has taken 2:25 and I'm only 24% completed. Are the workunits longer this week? I tried dumping units and reinstalling BOINC with no change.

FYI: I just checked my CPUs and they're only operating @ 74%, where they used to be at 100%. I know this doesn't account for the massive difference, but maybe it's a clue?

PS... I probably should have posted this in a different thread. Please move it if you want to!
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Message 3041 - Posted 15 Apr 2007 0:00:05 UTC - in response to Message ID 3040 .

Actually, I just noticed that the same thing is happening to me. Where it used to take 1:45 or less per workunit, now it has taken 2:25 and I'm only 24% completed. Are the workunits longer this week? I tried dumping units and reinstalling BOINC with no change.

FYI: I just checked my CPUs and they're only operating @ 74%, where they used to be at 100%. I know this doesn't account for the massive difference, but maybe it's a clue?

PS... I probably should have posted this in a different thread. Please move it if you want to!


It looks like 5.05 is doing excessive disk I/O and it's slowing the application. There's a thread on "Excessive disk activity" here in "Number crunching". Could you post this over there as well. It looks like the CPU usage dropping to @ 74% could mean that the program is I/O bound now. Do you have something like the linux "top" program which shows what percent of time is spent in I/O wait, and could you post that over there as well?

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Message 3042 - Posted 15 Apr 2007 0:21:08 UTC - in response to Message ID 3041 .
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It looks like 5.05 is doing excessive disk I/O and it's slowing the application. There's a thread on "Excessive disk activity" here in "Number crunching". Could you post this over there as well. It looks like the CPU usage dropping to @ 74% could mean that the program is I/O bound now. Do you have something like the linux "top" program which shows what percent of time is spent in I/O wait, and could you post that over there as well?

Thanks,

-- David


Actually, I'm using BOINC 5.8.17 (latest mac version). I was using the same version since it came out and have never had this problem. Here's a screenshot of top. I assume the charmm apps (I have four CPUs) are what you're looking for? BOINCManager seems to use very little CPU, as does boinc. If this doesn't show all that you're looking for, I can take a larger screenshot...



And here's a screenshot of CoreDuoTemp:



Normally, the past few weeks, since I enabled all four processors, the CPUs run at around 100% and the temps around 193F.
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Message 3043 - Posted 15 Apr 2007 0:40:58 UTC

I have noticed a slowdown on MacOS Intel, too. The old application was about 2.5 hours, the new one was about 5.5 hours.

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Message 3049 - Posted 15 Apr 2007 8:38:33 UTC - in response to Message ID 3043 .
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I have noticed a slowdown on MacOS Intel, too. The old application was about 2.5 hours, the new one was about 5.5 hours.


Wow. Then you're lucky, cuz mine seem to be taking about 10-11hrs each, whereas last week they were taking 1.6hrs each...
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