Posts by fractal

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Message boards : Number crunching : Cobblestones

( Message 5305 )
Posted 2922 days ago by fractal
Fixed credits are used now. We will keep tunning the flops constant in the following weeks. Your input will be greatly appreciated

Thank you, thank you THANK YOU!
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Message boards : Number crunching : Stats not being exported

( Message 5249 )
Posted 2938 days ago by fractal
Ahhh, fixed. Thanks.
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Message boards : Number crunching : Stats not being exported

( Message 5246 )
Posted 2940 days ago by fractal
Going to http://docking.cis.udel.edu/stats/ gets a 403 - forbidden.

So whether they are being exported or not, permissions don't allow anyone to get at them.
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Message boards : Number crunching : Cobblestones

( Message 5235 )
Posted 2943 days ago by fractal
I have been sitting back quietly crunching for Docking@home for many months. I am not one of the big heavy weights who crunch only for cobbles. I only have four quad core systems dedicated to Docking plus a few part time crunchers. After reading this thread for the third time ... it has been going on for over a year now ... several things are pretty obvious.

a. We all know that fixed credits reduce cheating in projects where batches can be adequately benchmarked.

b. We all know that docking@home credits are below industry average.

c. We all know that nothing has changed in over a year. Plenty of talk, little action.

I just reviewed a the completed work on my machines and indeed, it appears that batches are fairly consistent. The active batch is 48 cobbles. Shortly before that was an 83 cobble batch. It seems that you should have a pretty good idea how much processing a work unit should take. Fixed credits with "flag for inspection" on anyone who claims something outside the range of reasonable seems to me to be a no-brainer. If a flagged work unit comes out higher than benchmark, then reward the contributor. If not, and you see a pattern, ban them.

Finally, credits are low. You know that. I know that. Everyone knows that. The exact multiplier to conform to industry standard is somewhere near 1.5x what you are granting. You can no longer use SETI as the "gold standard" because the CUDA client is not separated, but the numbers posted over the years show a pretty clear pattern.

In summary, I am contributing to docking@home because I think it is doing good work. But, the dc nut in me feels slighted by the below average credits. The claim that you can not adjust credits to a level more consistent with the rest of the field out of fear of attracting too many cheaters does little to satisfy, especially when it seems clear that you are doing batches of fixed size units.
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Message boards : Number crunching : Work Units That Never Want To End

( Message 4960 )
Posted 3023 days ago by fractal
Exactly the same problem here, Linux and Windows. Cancelling the units clears the problems but new work is full of 1hpv, presumably because everyone is cancelling and so they are being resent.

Actually, they are set to 0/1/1 so are canceled the first error.

That said, I just noticed a bunch of red units in boincview. All hpv's. All ran 12 1/2 hrs before exceeding cpu, claiming 150 credits and getting none.

So, the good news is ... they only fail once. The bad news is they run for 12 hrs instead of 2, and you get no credit.

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Message boards : Wish list : More frequent xml stat updates

( Message 4429 )
Posted 3240 days ago by fractal
XML stats are currently generated once a day at 20h55. It would be helpful if they could be updated more frequently than once a day. Common update intervals on other projects are every 4, 6 or 8 hours.
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Message boards : Number crunching : The WORK queue is empty

( Message 4427 )
Posted 3240 days ago by fractal
It looks like sql died again.

No work to send, all results going to pending.
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Message boards : Number crunching : Zero Progress

( Message 4400 )
Posted 3243 days ago by fractal
I am not sure if they show zero progress before they hit 100% or not, but here are three that show 0 progress and are over the time most complete.





this is a 64 bit linux machine but I did just have one fail on this windows desktop. It generated a popup dialog box as well. Unfortunately, I did not record the details of the error.

Chasing the lead of an earlier post,

drwxrwx--x 8 boinc boinc 4096 2008-09-15 11:13 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1198604 2008-09-21 09:19 1d4h_mod0013sc_67090_271554.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1198603 2008-09-21 09:15 1d4h_mod0013sc_67391_31409.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 28126 2008-09-22 10:28 1d4h_mod0013sc_67523_34227_1_0
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 35245 2008-09-22 10:27 1d4h_mod0013sc_67523_34227_1_1
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 4744 2008-09-22 10:26 1d4h_mod0013sc_67523_34227_1_2
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1500 2008-09-22 10:20 1d4h_mod0013sc_67523_34227_1_3
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1198603 2008-09-21 09:15 1d4h_mod0013sc_67523_34227.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1198604 2008-09-21 09:22 1d4h_mod0013sc_67864_493372.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1198604 2008-09-21 09:18 1d4h_mod0013sc_68084_407694.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1198603 2008-09-21 09:19 1d4h_mod0013sc_68343_81142.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1198603 2008-09-21 09:21 1d4h_mod0013sc_68432_50375.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1198604 2008-09-21 09:20 1d4h_mod0013sc_69322_160096.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1198604 2008-09-21 09:23 1d4h_mod0013sc_69340_141088.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 0 2008-09-22 08:23 1d4h_mod0013sc_70028_420988_0_3
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 0 2008-09-21 09:12 1d4h_mod0013sc_70028_420988.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 0 2008-09-22 08:46 1d4h_mod0013sc_70064_282062_0_3
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 0 2008-09-21 09:12 1d4h_mod0013sc_70064_282062.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 08:47 1d4i_mod0013sc_10872_442568.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:21 1d4i_mod0013sc_10969_435807.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:21 1d4i_mod0013sc_10981_289872.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:21 1d4i_mod0013sc_11014_276842.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:22 1d4i_mod0013sc_11016_273878.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 13:06 1d4i_mod0013sc_1102_144212.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:22 1d4i_mod0013sc_11023_356539.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:22 1d4i_mod0013sc_11024_406546.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 09:09 1d4i_mod0013sc_11220_418107.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:19 1d4i_mod0013sc_11267_186560.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201311 2008-09-22 10:22 1d4i_mod0013sc_11304_82351.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:22 1d4i_mod0013sc_11453_165667.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:19 1d4i_mod0013sc_11491_359172.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 10:19 1d4i_mod0013sc_11492_268627.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 13:07 1d4i_mod0013sc_1215_165059.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 21:13 1d4i_mod0013sc_1640_362580.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:33 1d4i_mod0013sc_199_382798.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 13:05 1d4i_mod0013sc_2174_270600.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 13:05 1d4i_mod0013sc_2175_406065.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 13:06 1d4i_mod0013sc_2176_100285.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 13:06 1d4i_mod0013sc_2177_487444.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 13:06 1d4i_mod0013sc_2178_217941.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 14:44 1d4i_mod0013sc_2285_249162.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 14:18 1d4i_mod0013sc_2458_497242.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 14:56 1d4i_mod0013sc_3227_245712.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 21:03 1d4i_mod0013sc_3428_294218.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201311 2008-09-21 15:20 1d4i_mod0013sc_3486_99657.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:33 1d4i_mod0013sc_354_198653.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:23 1d4i_mod0013sc_356_482441.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:24 1d4i_mod0013sc_363_341490.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 15:22 1d4i_mod0013sc_3660_223550.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:24 1d4i_mod0013sc_371_329222.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:25 1d4i_mod0013sc_372_209605.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:26 1d4i_mod0013sc_378_136543.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:26 1d4i_mod0013sc_379_357988.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:27 1d4i_mod0013sc_382_332627.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:28 1d4i_mod0013sc_383_191682.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201311 2008-09-21 09:29 1d4i_mod0013sc_384_50587.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 21:10 1d4i_mod0013sc_3856_306609.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201310 2008-09-21 09:29 1d4i_mod0013sc_385_7475.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:30 1d4i_mod0013sc_386_463763.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:30 1d4i_mod0013sc_391_156220.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:33 1d4i_mod0013sc_406_153784.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 15:10 1d4i_mod0013sc_4159_125065.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 0 2008-09-22 09:07 1d4i_mod0013sc_4_168177_0_3
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 0 2008-09-21 09:12 1d4i_mod0013sc_4_168177.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201311 2008-09-21 09:33 1d4i_mod0013sc_424_88612.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 15:07 1d4i_mod0013sc_4317_365806.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 15:26 1d4i_mod0013sc_4369_347860.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 16:07 1d4i_mod0013sc_4409_230374.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 15:55 1d4i_mod0013sc_4607_280997.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 15:56 1d4i_mod0013sc_4912_432883.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 16:06 1d4i_mod0013sc_5034_102901.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 20:36 1d4i_mod0013sc_5495_177356.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 20:36 1d4i_mod0013sc_5618_236145.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 21:28 1d4i_mod0013sc_5675_100259.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 0 2008-09-21 21:05 1d4i_mod0013sc_5994_62193.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 0 2008-09-21 21:06 1d4i_mod0013sc_5999_344225.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 03:59 1d4i_mod0013sc_6774_271320.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 03:59 1d4i_mod0013sc_6775_331427.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:00 1d4i_mod0013sc_6777_212727.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:00 1d4i_mod0013sc_6778_450296.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:01 1d4i_mod0013sc_6779_306983.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:01 1d4i_mod0013sc_6780_216882.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:01 1d4i_mod0013sc_6781_216774.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:01 1d4i_mod0013sc_6782_316725.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:01 1d4i_mod0013sc_6783_346859.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:02 1d4i_mod0013sc_6784_260026.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:02 1d4i_mod0013sc_6869_367019.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:37 1d4i_mod0013sc_736_237484.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201311 2008-09-22 04:02 1d4i_mod0013sc_7602_11227.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201311 2008-09-21 09:30 1d4i_mod0013sc_769_71879.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:31 1d4i_mod0013sc_770_349225.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201310 2008-09-22 04:21 1d4i_mod0013sc_7717_7457.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:32 1d4i_mod0013sc_779_437986.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-21 09:32 1d4i_mod0013sc_780_278043.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201311 2008-09-22 03:59 1d4i_mod0013sc_7814_29652.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:02 1d4i_mod0013sc_7830_362616.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201311 2008-09-22 04:02 1d4i_mod0013sc_7991_83540.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:52 1d4i_mod0013sc_8602_130987.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 04:42 1d4i_mod0013sc_8700_342444.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201311 2008-09-21 09:33 1d4i_mod0013sc_906_92068.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1201312 2008-09-22 08:24 1d4i_mod0013sc_9596_439959.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1215478 2008-09-21 09:16 1hvj_mod0013sc_17945_311579.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1215478 2008-09-21 09:17 1hvj_mod0013sc_19226_322128.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1215478 2008-09-21 09:22 1hvj_mod0013sc_20224_402772.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1215477 2008-09-21 09:31 1hvj_mod0013sc_21570_17307.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1215478 2008-09-21 20:36 1hvj_mod0013sc_26075_213826.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1215478 2008-09-21 20:33 1hvj_mod0013sc_29264_228825.inp
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1215478 2008-09-21 20:23 1hvj_mod0013sc_29969_144015.inp
-rwxr-xr-x 1 boinc boinc 1315634 2008-09-15 11:15 charmm34_6.15_graphics_linux_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
-rwxr-xr-x 1 boinc boinc 7773577 2008-09-15 11:16 charmm34_6.15_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1746 2008-09-15 11:15 grid_probes.rtf
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 66708 2008-09-15 11:16 helvetica.txf
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 123892 2008-09-15 11:16 logo.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 236662 2008-09-15 11:15 lpdb_amino.rtf
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 242815 2008-09-15 11:15 lpdb.prm
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1056 2008-09-15 11:15 lpdb_probes.prm
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1450 2008-09-15 11:16 minus.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1652 2008-09-15 11:16 plus.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 2223 2008-09-15 11:16 rotate_left.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc 1812 2008-09-15 11:16 rotate_right.jpg


suggests that 0 byte .inp files may be the fault.
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Message boards : Number crunching : Moving to Beta D@H

( Message 4390 )
Posted 3244 days ago by fractal
Ahh, you have a 5 hr limit. They errored out.

http://docking.cis.udel.edu/workunit.php?wuid=274305
http://docking.cis.udel.edu/workunit.php?wuid=274303
http://docking.cis.udel.edu/workunit.php?wuid=273902
http://docking.cis.udel.edu/workunit.php?wuid=273791
http://docking.cis.udel.edu/workunit.php?wuid=274224

I have a bunch still running, but as long as they abort in reasonable time I won't worry too much ... as long as there aren't too many of them.
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Message boards : Number crunching : Moving to Beta D@H

( Message 4381 )
Posted 3244 days ago by fractal
Should work be taking 4+ hours? Nothing I have done so far has exceeded two hours and most have been right around 1 hour on 2.4-2.5 ghz quads. I now have a number of work units reporting over 4 hours cpu time.

Are these normal or a symptom of the server issues?


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