Posts by Dagorath
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power! ( Message 1277 )Posted 3929 days ago by Dagorath
Right, Doug, where are all the other Linux crunchers who you seem to think disapprove of claiming what one earns? Foam at the mouth as much as you want but you won't find many people who think claiming what I earned is cheating. In fact not even the project admins here seem to think it's cheating. . |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Doubt about linux benchmark and some docking users ( Message 1276 )Posted 3929 days ago by Dagorath
The output is... 0 ./boincmgr 0 ./boinc -redirectio -insecure 0 grep boinc OK, so boinc is running at nice 0. How many credits per hour do you claim for, in default conditions? Here at D@H I was completing WUs in about 1hr 20 min and claiming 9 credits. That's about 7 credits per hour, most of the time that machine does very little other work. |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power! ( Message 1271 )Posted 3929 days ago by Dagorath You cannot see past your EGO, to admit, Linux users do not share your beliefs. Do any Linux users beleive that manipulating your Bencmarks is "wrong"? Read the thread for yourself. Saenger thought it was cheating until he realised I was just claiming what I earned, claiming what that computer would have earned had it been running Windoze. You seem to be the only one foaming at the mouth over this. If you cannot see past your own arrogance to accept that we all have our own opinions, Have whatever opinion you want and express it wherever you want but when you call me a cheater when I have not cheated then I will assist you with your quest to prove you are silly. wrong in your eyes maybe, but, where are other Linux users that agree with you.?? Well, foamer, they're doing what I tried to do and failed. They're claiming what their Linux boxes would claim if they were running Windows. A few have emailed me to tell me how to do it but the procedure is a bit of a nuisance and I don't have the time for it. No- more waisting time with "your" arrogance.If you cannot see that, really feel sorry for you. Lonley Boy raging on and on about how Manpulation is correct. I didn't manipulate you. I gave you every warning that you were going to prove you are an idiot but you ignored all that and decided to foam at the mouth instead. Next time try thinking before you type. You saying that claiming what I earned is cheating, how stoopid can you be? |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power! ( Message 1270 )Posted 3929 days ago by Dagorath Yes, you're all right, but you're too impatient. Perhaps I am. Perhaps I am not, it's a very subjective measurement. I think I have been more patient than some crunchers and not as patient as others. Not all devs are like superman (lol). The problem does not require Superman's powers to solve it. This project can be advanced with other patient linux users, without you, so please participate in other project with precious resource of your linux machine for the humanity:) Yes, you are right, it can be advanced without me. But please keep in mind before you go that if linux machines continue crunching as they have been the credit system issue can be set to higher priority since what they should solve other issues before they work on the problem can be completed. I'm not sure, though. I disagree. They won't fix a problem until it becomes a problem for them. If Linux crunchers stay and accept being treated unfairly then the project will treat them unfairly forever. If Linux crunchers leave they might speed up their efforts to fix the credit issues. Or they might decide they don't need Linux at all. In the end, the project and I will both have exactly what we want. I will crunch where Linux is treated fairly and D@H will have whatever it wants. . |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power! ( Message 1268 )Posted 3929 days ago by Dagorath Doug, Some men have the courage to admit when they've made a mistake and go on with life. You don't seem to have the cahones for that so don't tell me about pompacity and arrogance. Your claim that claiming what I earned is cheating is patently silly and your flying into a rage over it is further proof of your sillyness. Do I care that I don't have a lot of silly friends? Not at all because I have sensible courageous friends. |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power! ( Message 1265 )Posted 3929 days ago by Dagorath So, Doug, you stick with your claim that claiming equal pay for equal work is cheating. I define cheating as claiming more than the amount one earns. I wish you good luck on your quest for silliness though I don't think you need the luck, you seem to have all the requisite skills and tenacity required to accomplish your noble goal. . |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Doubt about linux benchmark and some docking users ( Message 1261 )Posted 3929 days ago by Dagorath But the real question is (I ask because today I've seen this happening! I would never have thought about this): are you sure you are not running the client itself with nice 19? This sometimes happens with Fedora and similar, and it's a totally wrong thing to do. I run BOINC on Fedora Core 5. I start BOINC at boot with the following lines added to the end of /etc/profile: ulimit -s unlimited cd /home/me/bin/BOINC ./run_manager & The /home/me/bin/BOINC/run_manager file is: cd /home/me/bin/BOINC exec ./boincmgr $@ As far as I can see I am not running BOINC with nice 19 but the benchmarks and credit claims are very low compared to what I get when that computer crunches under Windoze. I am another Linux newbie and I wonder... maybe some line in some other script is causing BOINC to run with nice 19? |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power! ( Message 1260 )Posted 3929 days ago by Dagorath Call it what you want"its unfair" Life is unfair, but that does not give me the right to change a Benchmark. I have the right to change whatever I please on my computer as long as it does not violate the law. I altered the benchmark to claim what that computer would have claimed had it been running Windoze. You have the right to call equal pay for equal work cheating if you want to but I just can't imagine why anybody would want to say something that silly in public. . |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power! ( Message 1257 )Posted 3930 days ago by Dagorath lol. For them there must be other things to do before they go into the credits for Linux specifically. moreover, they surely promised to work on the point in future. What you're doing isn't admirable. I don't crunch to earn your admiration. I don't owe D@H anything, they are in MY debt not the other way around. Their failure to issue credits fairly is not admirable. For me there are other things to do before I support projects that refuse to tackle issues that have existed for as long as the Linux credits problem has existed. A promise to work on it in the future does not tackle the issue. Other projects have made real efforts and have provided real solutions, I will support them instead. . |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power! ( Message 1255 )Posted 3930 days ago by Dagorath
You misunderstood the directions I gave in the first post in this thread. I said "Open your BOINC/client_state.xml file." That does not mean read the Boinc Shell or whatever you're trying to do. The fix I described in that first post does not work for long. It's more complicated than I first realised and a bit of a nuisance so I have decided to simply not crunch projects like D@H that do not reward Linux systems fairly. Yah, I know it's only alpha and all that but my list of minimal expectations for alpha projects now includes fair credits for Linux. I don't give a darn about the credits but so many other fellow crunchers do, it needs to be fixed. I think the only way to force a proper fix is to adopt the position I have adopted which may in turn force the projects and BOINC devs to pull their heads out their butts and do the right thing. "Open your BOINC/client_state.xml file" means open the file named client_state.xml which you will find in the BOINC directory. I recommend you NOT do that for 2 reasons: 1) it doesn't help in the long run, 2) you're likely to screw it up and I won't be here to help you unscrew it. . |
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