Posts by [B^S] Doug Worrall

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Message boards : Unix/Linux : Linux WU's = Invalid = No Credit?

( Message 1630 )
Posted 3908 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall


have not crunched for Docking for a few weeks due to not knowing why my work isnot being "validated". As soon as I know that the 3 w/u
that still need validation, are not one of those 30 some odd weird w/u.
See You At PClinuxOS

Be Well Trog Dog

Doug


G'day Doug

Just had a quick look at one of your invalid wu's and it looks like the PIII bug. PIII's and PIII Celerons produce different results to PIV's and PIV Celerons. If you have a PIV Celeron (looks like you do) and you come up against two PIII's yours get marked invalid, likewise if you come up against one PIV and one PIII the PIV's render the PIII result invalid.

Clear as mud?

Bottomline is the project is working on it.

Catch you over at PCLOS.


Thanks Trog Dog,
Yup Celeron probs, will need an upgrade soon.See you at the forums Trog Dog.

Sincerely

Doug*
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Message boards : Unix/Linux : Linux WU's = Invalid = No Credit?

( Message 1622 )
Posted 3909 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall



Trog Dog,
Great news that MiniMe works well for you.On 3 Machines WOW.I cannot get ulimit to work on same type Distro.The Ulimit takes just like you said with the 8192.
How do you start your Boinc Client?{KDE menu, or comand line} if command line,
could you post this for me, Thanks Trog Dog.I cannot get a w/u to be successful
Have to start a different instance of Boinc.
Take care
Doug


G'day Doug

I use KDE's startup script to autostart the BOINC manager as KDE starts (KDE is also set to autolog me in). The result is on a reboot KDE starts and logs in as user trogdog and starts the BOINC manager.

To use the KDE autostart script create a text file containing the following

#!/bin/sh
/path/to/your/BOINC/run_manager &>/dev/null &


In my case the line path/to/your/BOINC/run_manager is /home/trogdog/BOINC/run_manager

save it as /path/to/your/.kde/Autostart/startup

In my case the file is /home/trogdog/.kde/Autostart/startup

Make this file executable.

As far as the ulimit fix goes I have that as the first line in the run_manager file.

If this isn't clear PM me in the PCLOS forum.


G,day Trog Dog,
I will be using PClinuxOs P.M. to communicate with you.Just got the special repos with Bandwidth the size of Grand Canyon, and about 2000 extra packages.
One small donation and, ehaa, have not crunched for Docking for a few weeks due to not knowing why my work isnot being "validated". As soon as I know that the 3 w/u
that still need validation, are not one of those 30 some odd weird w/u.
See You At PClinuxOS

Be Well Trog Dog

Doug
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Message boards : Unix/Linux : Linux WU's = Invalid = No Credit?

( Message 1584 )
Posted 3913 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall

Hello Stranger,
Hey Trog Dog how goes the Minime O.S. that I sujested that you use, and, are the credits good {for Linux}, and, how did you get Ulimit to work with MiniMe? I may go back to Minime, I miss the little guy.Is MiniMe P.C. # 810, that looks like my old kernel? There is many reasons why I am asking these questions Trog Dog, if you are unconfortable to answer them at this Post, could we communicate via Email?


G'day Doug

I've got 3 Minime's ( Optima , Optiplex and Athlon ). I initially had problems until I used the ulimit fix, the main problem though was that ulimit -s still reports as 8192 so I initially thought that it hadn't taken, but it had.

I like Minime, and I'm glad that you gave me the tip to check it out.



Trog Dog,
Great news that MiniMe works well for you.On 3 Machines WOW.I cannot get ulimit to work on same type Distro.The Ulimit takes just like you said with the 8192.
How do you start your Boinc Client?{KDE menu, or comand line} if command line,
could you post this for me, Thanks Trog Dog.I cannot get a w/u to be successful
Have to start a different instance of Boinc.
Take care
Doug
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Message boards : Unix/Linux : Linux WU's = Invalid = No Credit?

( Message 1533 )
Posted 3914 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall
I plan to start working on this HR solution this week. Don't know how hard or easy it will be to get this going, but hope easy...

Andre



Cheers Andre

I've kept all my boxes attached, although on a minimal resource share

Hello Stranger,
Hey Trog Dog how goes the Minime O.S. that I sujested that you use, and, are the credits good {for Linux}, and, how did you get Ulimit to work with MiniMe? I may go back to Minime, I miss the little guy.Is MiniMe P.C. # 810, that looks like my old kernel? There is many reasons why I am asking these questions Trog Dog, if you are unconfortable to answer them at this Post, could we communicate via Email?
"Andre" regarding this:"I hope to get a bit further with this issue tomorrow (tuesday). Today we had a paper deadline and I was working on this all day. We have submitted a Docking@Home paper to the PCGrid07 workshop in IPDPS.
Let's all cross fingers that it gets accepted :-)"

Want to wish you all the best luck and am sure we all are going to receive a great Christmas Gift from Docking, Like a new app.

Thanks Doug
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Message boards : Number crunching : zero credits for valid result??

( Message 1506 )
Posted 3916 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall
Unless I go into the database and manually change the credits in there, no BOINC won't give you any credits for this result because the calculated result was wrong. And to be honest, I don't think we should do that unless we do this for all the other people/results in the db that experienced this, and to be honest that would take some time to put a script or something together, which can be better spent on the app problem. I hope you understand....

Andre


The other 50% of the question, was, will I still receive credit?
Thanks
Doug


Thanks Andre,
Understand perectly.Good luck with the new app, happy to understand also, that it is not this P.C. that weirded out, but the app. Keep up the good work.

DOUG
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power!

( Message 1505 )
Posted 3916 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall
Are these proposed by Boinc, and granted credit, on par with most Linux Boxes?, or, way below?

Hi Doug,

I'm still fighting with my Celeron 2.4 GHz Linux box, but I'll put some links to my other 2 boxes below. You can click on the results link in the summary and see their credit history. All are running the latest 5.4.x stock client downloaded from the Boinc website.

Linux FC3 - Socket A Sempron 2500+

Windows XP - Celeron 2.3 GHz

Hope this helps,

-- David



Thanks Dave,
Yes it did, and I am on par with credits, as seen from your Linux Box. Happy
Crunching Dave. Good luck with getting all your boxes to work well for you.
Thanks

Doug
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Message boards : Number crunching : zero credits for valid result??

( Message 1496 )
Posted 3916 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall

WOW, 37 w/u that have weirded out, that is funny.Welcome back Team Docking.
Yes, Andre that answer was 50% complete.Glad to be of service to find, and inform you of this irregularity.I am still amased, 37 out of how many is good.Therfore
the app really aint that bad.
The other 50% of the question, was, will I still receive credit?
Thanks
Doug
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Message boards : Number crunching : zero credits for valid result??

( Message 1478 )
Posted 3917 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall
Have a w/u here, that was successful, yet was not granted credit. This is not a P.C. problem, turned in a w/u the same session, with granted credit.
{ CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz }

Result ID 49001
Name 1tng_mod0001_11754_288290_3
Workunit 13944
Created 17 Nov 2006 16:15:25 UTC
Sent 17 Nov 2006 23:12:03 UTC
Received 18 Nov 2006 4:22:54 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 571
Report deadline 22 Nov 2006 23:12:03 UTC
CPU time 16220.613725
stderr out

<core_client_version>5.4.9</core_client_version>
<stderr_txt>
Calling BOINC init.
Starting charmm run...
SUCCESS - Charmm exited with code 0.
Resolving file charmm.out...
Calling BOINC finish.

</stderr_txt>

Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 17.8492638992171
Granted credit 0
application version 5.02

Regarding the 5 hour crunchng time, receiving the poor Linux credits, will I receive
the 17.85 credits that "should" be awarded for a completed, successful w/u??

Thanks "Happy Crunching"
L.P.C. { last place cruncher, LOL }
Doug
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Message boards : Number crunching : To Linux crunchers: lower credits issue

( Message 1468 )
Posted 3918 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall

Hello, suguruhirahara

I believe, you got all the information, in this Post, too help Linux users.
Good to know that the credit system will be addressed soon.From day 1, have tried
to the best of my abbility, too keep crunching.Folding experiments, are my 1st.
choice of experiments. The Scientists and personel should be doing Science
etc..,while suguruhirahara
Forum moderator, is doing a bang up job, communicating issues that are important,
freeing up time for the Docking "personel" too upgrade apps, etc..

Thanks Docking Moderators, personel, Scietists

Sluger
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux Users: Sieze the Power!

( Message 1465 )
Posted 3918 days ago by Profile [B^S] Doug Worrall
Are these proposed by Boinc, and granted credit, on par with most Linux Boxes?


I have no idea. I'm just another cruncher (I don't work for BOINC or this project) but with the standard BOINC 5.4.11 on my windows boxes I am getting between 70 and 80 credits per work unit (and as you can see from my credits, I have not yet done many WU).

The closest match I have for your PC is a 2.4GHz Pentium 4, which has only done one work unit to date. It took much longer than your Celeron and claimed 4.5 times as much credit. It's hard to draw any conclusions from that.

My P4 claimed 7.57 credits per hour. Your Celeron claimed about 3.81 credits per hour (based on the average of the last 3 WU). They're not identical machines so I'd expect there be a difference, though I would not think the P4 is twice as powerful.

IMHO you'd have to run the same WU on one machine, once under Linux, once under Windows, to get comparative data (if it could be done)



Thanks Yoda,
That helps plently, and , makes much sense, Thanks again

Doug


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