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Hello,
Am I the only Linux tester that cannot get ulimit -s unlimited to "stick"?
Thank You

Doug
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Hello,
This is how many times I have been trying "The Fix" and would appreciate anyone that might know someone that was unable to set Stacksize for Linux Boxes?
Presently am crunching "Simap" and would really appreciate any advice anyone could offer?

Sincerely
Doug Worrall

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Hello,
Am I the only Linux tester that cannot get ulimit -s unlimited to "stick"?
Thank You

Doug

Doug,
I was having the same problems and I could not get the 'ulimit' thing to do much for me.
I posted a question in "Questions & Answers", Linux, Distro Questionaire and Andre gave back this information:---

Find a file called run_manager in your BOINC installation directory and add the line 'ulimit -s unlimited' (without the quotes) as the first line in that file using your favorite editor. Now stop your running boinc manager, open a terminal, type 'cd <boinc installation directory> followed by ./run_manager. You might also be able to use your GUI file manager to go to that directory and double-click on the run_manager file.

Following these instructions I was able to get things working. I did not use the terminal mode to run the Boinc programme as I used a GUI in Fedora Core 3.

if you have trouble following this post go to the Qustions & Answers where you reported your problems with Linux uder the Post "Distro Questionaire" and go down about 3/4 of the way till you get to my question asking how to use "ulimit" and then follow Andre's response.




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Doug,
I was having the same problems and I could not get the 'ulimit' thing to do much for me.
I posted a question in "Questions & Answers", Linux, Distro Questionaire and Andre gave back this information:---

Find a file called run_manager in your BOINC installation directory and add the line 'ulimit -s unlimited' (without the quotes) as the first line in that file using your favorite editor. Now stop your running boinc manager, open a terminal, type 'cd <boinc installation directory> followed by ./run_manager. You might also be able to use your GUI file manager to go to that directory and double-click on the run_manager file.

Following these instructions I was able to get things working. I did not use the terminal mode to run the Boinc programme as I used a GUI in Fedora Core 3.

if you have trouble following this post go to the Qustions & Answers where you reported your problems with Linux uder the Post "Distro Questionaire" and go down about 3/4 of the way till you get to my question asking how to use "ulimit" and then follow Andre's response.

Hello Doug,
As I am not too good with the text syntax method of running programmes, I just used the GUI fedora interface.
I went to the Boinc folder and open it.
I then located the "run_manager" file and opened it in my text editor by right clicking on the file.
Added the line "ulimit -s unlimited" (without the exclamation marks), as the first line of the file and then saved the file.
Stopped BOINC Manager programme.
I then restarted the Boinc Manager programme again mamually from inside the folder (as I have not yet worked out how to get the Linux system to reboot when power goes off, and how to automatically get it past the login screen and get it to start a specific programme, without me being there, but I will one day).
Things started to work properly after this.

I am not sure how to run the programme from the terminal screen.
hope this helps.
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[root@localhost ~]# cd<boinc installation directory>
-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'

Hi Doug,

OK, a few things to try to narrow down the problem. In cases where the sentence ends in a path or filename, I've put a space before the period that terminates the sentence, so as not to make you think it's part of the path or filename. Note that boincmgr is the actual program that run_manager does setup for and then runs.

1. Where do you have the boinc client installed? On my systems, it's something like /home/BOINC or /BOINC . That's where you should find run_manager and it should be a text file. I only have one file named run_manager on my system. That second copy you say you have is kind of strange. Could you type the following command at a console while running as root and post the output.

locate run_manager


2. If you're using a desktop icon to start the BOINC manager, right click on the icon, click on properties, and see what command it executes. On my FC3 system, it's /home/BOINC/run_manager . That's the file you should edit. You should stop BOINC, edit the file, and restart BOINC by clicking on the icon.


3. Are you running the BOINC client as root or have you setup a separate user for it? If you're letting boincmgr start the BOINC client then, using whatever user you're logged in as when you run the boincmgr, type the following command and post the output. This will show the default limits for that user.

ulimit -a

4. I looked at the computer in your profile and it says you're running Linux 2.6.16.27.tex1.lve . Do you know if you have selinux enabled?

That should be enough to get started. I know there's some security limits on Linux 2.6.x about changing values with ulimit. I'll have to find where to change that again. There's a soft and a hard limit and then there's a file somewhere that let's you override that for certain users. I ran across some info on that the other day, but will have to find it again.

Regards,

-- David

EDIT: Left something out of one question and deleted quoted text since it was large. See the message this is in response to if you need to reference it.

Hi Doug,

OK, a few things to try to narrow down the problem. In cases where the sentence ends in a path or filename, I've put a space before the period that terminates the sentence, so as not to make you think it's part of the path or filename. Note that boincmgr is the actual program that run_manager does setup for and then runs.

1. Where do you have the boinc client installed? On my systems, it's something like /home/BOINC or /BOINC . That's where you should find run_manager and it should be a text file. I only have one file named run_manager on my system. That second copy you say you have is kind of strange. Could you type the following command at a console while running as root and post the output.

locate run_manager


2. If you're using a desktop icon to start the BOINC manager, right click on the icon, click on properties, and see what command it executes. On my FC3 system, it's /home/BOINC/run_manager . That's the file you should edit. You should stop BOINC, edit the file, and restart BOINC by clicking on the icon.


3. Are you running the BOINC client as root or have you setup a separate user for it? If you're letting boincmgr start the BOINC client then, using whatever user you're logged in as when you run the boincmgr, type the following command and post the output. This will show the default limits for that user.

ulimit -a

4. I looked at the computer in your profile and it says you're running Linux 2.6.16.27.tex1.lve . Do you know if you have selinux enabled?

That should be enough to get started. I know there's some security limits on Linux 2.6.x about changing values with ulimit. I'll have to find where to change that again. There's a soft and a hard limit and then there's a file somewhere that let's you override that for certain users. I ran across some info on that the other day, but will have to find it again.

Regards,

-- David

EDIT: Left something out of one question and deleted quoted text since it was large. See the message this is in response to if you need to reference it.

Hello David,

Before I hit the hay this morning, 7:28 A.M. I took screenshots for you.
Will be back on line in about 5 hours.Here is the URL

http://www.boincsynergy.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=45298#45298

Thank you Dave

Doug Worrall

Hi all,

I just wanted to give everyone an update from the project side. I am currently working on adding code to change the stack size limit from the application. This is not an ideal solution because it may not work for everyone depending on your system settings.

We are also looking at the possibility of building a smaller version of the charmm application. This may take some time, because we need to make sure the smaller version works with our input files, and does indeed fix the stack problem.

Both of these are short term solutions. In the long term, we are working on moving to a newer version of the charmm application, but obviously this will take more work, and time, on our side.

Thank you all for your help, and patience.

Hello David,
Here is the output from run_manager in Root

bash-3.00$ su
Password:
[root@localhost doug]# locate run_manager
warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old
/home/doug/BOINC/run_manager
[root@localhost doug]#

There are screen shots of my Files at the URL above

Sincerely

Doug

Hi Doug

First, I'm assuming from the info that I saw that the user you're running BOINC under is "doug".

Here's something that might work.

go back to the original run_client and run_manager without the ulimit in them

Stop boinc and logout

login as root

CAREFULLY edit file /etc/security/limits.conf

At the bottom of the file, just before the line that says

# End of file

insert a line that says

doug            soft    stack           64000

Thanks Dave,
Just on my way to work.Will do that Positive sounding and intelligent setting of my P.C.Do you mind if I paste this Post at my Forum?
Will inform you tommorrow of outcome, will do a "Top" in Terminal and watch it crunch, will see it also on Gkreml.

Sincerely

Doug*

Thanks Dave,
Just on my way to work.Will do that Positive sounding and intelligent setting of my P.C.Do you mind if I paste this Post at my Forum?
Will inform you tommorrow of outcome, will do a "Top" in Terminal and watch it crunch, will see it also on Gkreml.

Sincerely

Doug*

Hello Dave,
Did not work. errored out.Did the command line for you anyways.
ash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ulimit -a
core file size (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited
file size (blocks, -f) unlimited
max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 32
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files (-n) 1024
pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8
stack size (kbytes, -s) 64000
cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes (-u) 6073
virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited
bash-3.00$

Hope "this" will help you understand {why} it did not work.The w/u errored out right at the end as per usual. Thanks for your help, seemed like this would work.

Sincerely
Doug*

Hello Dave,
Did not work. errored out.Did the command line for you anyways.
ash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ulimit -a
core file size (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited
file size (blocks, -f) unlimited
max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 32
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files (-n) 1024
pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8
stack size (kbytes, -s) 64000
cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes (-u) 6073
virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited
bash-3.00$

Hope "this" will help you understand {why} it did not work.The w/u errored out right at the end as per usual. Thanks for your help, seemed like this would work.

Sincerely
Doug*

doug            soft    stack           64000

doug            soft    stack           unlimited

doug            hard    stack           unlimited

Hello Dave,
Took a bit figuring why when I entered command into that file, it left periods
so copied and pasted it in and no periods.Will do the new way as you have sugested
setting the soft and hard stacksize.Will delete what I put in yesterday and will put the new 2 lines in.Also will do the ulimit -a after I change it .
Here is my swap space and Ram

CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
Number of CPUs 1
Operating System Linux
2.6.16.27.tex1.lve
Memory 749.29 MB
Cache 256 KB
Swap space 1592.34 MB
Total disk space 18.62 GB
Free Disk Space 17.74 GB
Measured floating point speed 533.52 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 1644.33 million ops/sec


Thanks again Dave

Sincerely

Doug*

Hello Dave,
Took a bit figuring why when I entered command into that file, it left periods
so copied and pasted it in and no periods.Will do the new way as you have sugested.Also,
setting the soft and hard stacksize.Will delete what I put in yesterday and will put the new 2 lines in.Also will do the ulimit -a after I change it .
Here is my swap space and Ram

CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
Number of CPUs 1
Operating System Linux
2.6.16.27.tex1.lve
Memory 749.29 MB
Cache 256 KB
Swap space 1592.34 MB
Total disk space 18.62 GB
Free Disk Space 17.74 GB
Measured floating point speed 533.52 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 1644.33 million ops/sec


Thanks again Dave

Sincerely

Doug*

WOOPS,
Forgot to do it in Root, did it, will put the output from command now, D,oh
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ulimit -a
core file size (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited
file size (blocks, -f) unlimited
max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 32
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files (-n) 1024
pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8
stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192
cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes (-u) 6073
virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited
bash-3.00$



Will go try her out now.

Doug

Hello Dave,
Just tried another Docking w/u after all the changes were made "correctly".Thanks
for all your help. I guess this is a problem with "my distro" and am at witts
end.Again thank you for all your help.I will try anything and will not give-up, should I go back to cofig file and delete changes?

Sincerely

Doug Worrall

Doug: some questions
what distro do you have?
what shell are you using?
are you running boinc in graphical or text mode?

How long do your WUs take to exit with code 1?

Doug: some questions
what distro do you have?
what shell are you using?
are you running boinc in graphical or text mode?

How long do your WUs take to exit with code 1?

1. How about your shell? For this you can check the contents of /etc/passwd en at the end of the line of the account that you use to run boinc should say. Examples are bash (being one of the most common, I assume), zsh, ksh, csh, tcsh ,etc

2. Do you manipulate BOINC(attach to projects, suspend, resume, etc) with buttons or just send commands? (I am almost sure you are doing graphical)

I really hope we can find a temp fix for you, just work with me :)

1. How about your shell? For this you can check the contents of /etc/passwd en at the end of the line of the account that you use to run boinc should say. Examples are bash (being one of the most common, I assume), zsh, ksh, csh, tcsh ,etc

2. Do you manipulate BOINC(attach to projects, suspend, resume, etc) with buttons or just send commands? (I am almost sure you are doing graphical)

I really hope we can find a temp fix for you, just work with me :)

Hello Dave,
Just tried another Docking w/u after all the changes were made "correctly".Thanks
for all your help. I guess this is a problem with "my distro" and am at witts
end.Again thank you for all your help.I will try anything and will not give-up, should I go back to cofig file and delete changes?

Sincerely

Doug Worrall

OK seems like you run bash
In your home directory you should have a file called .bashrc (note the leading dot!) If you add the <ulimit -s unlimited> at the end of the file and save

then on a shell prompt type:
bash
ulimit -s

what is the output?

I will try to install your distro on a virtual machine to better help you, but if this "sticks" it might get you up and running for now.

OK seems like you run bash
In your home directory you should have a file called .bashrc (note the leading dot!) If you add the <ulimit -s unlimited> at the end of the file and save

then on a shell prompt type:
bash
ulimit -s

what is the output?

I will try to install your distro on a virtual machine to better help you, but if this "sticks" it might get you up and running for now.

Had to find .bashrc file in hidden files, typed and saved ulimit -s unlimited,
typed bash ulimit -s on a shell, got message "No such file in directory" Go Figure?

Had to find .bashrc file in hidden files, typed and saved ulimit -s unlimited,
typed bash ulimit -s on a shell, got message "No such file in directory" Go Figure?

It's separate commands. First type bash , press enter, then type ulimit -s .

Now from that same commandline where you see 'unlimited' change directory into your BOINC installation (probably 'cd BOINC') and run the boincmgr (enter './boincmgr'). Make sure you stop any running boinc programs first before you start this one.

Andre

Had to find .bashrc file in hidden files, typed and saved ulimit -s unlimited,
typed bash ulimit -s on a shell, got message "No such file in directory" Go Figure?

It's separate commands. First type bash , press enter, then type ulimit -s .

Thanks,
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ bash
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ulimit -s
unlimited
bash-3.00$

Got "unlimited" yet still no go?
Sincerely
Doug*

To make sure that no other threads of boinc are not running you can check with
"ps -aux"
and see if there is a process that says charmm or boinc
to kill it right away get the PID of that process and do
kill -9 <PID>
Do that for each process that you see that says charmm or boinc and then restart the project again.

NOTE:
By killing boinc you will suspend any other projects that you are running but they will be resumed when you rerun boinc.

hello,Me Again
I will never give in, have been told that this newKernel of mine, has security
measures of some sort?I am a newbie, I am wrong probably?Here is the Output from
./boincmngr
ash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ bash
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ulimit -s
unlimited
bash-3.00$ cd./boincmgr
bash: cd./boincmgr: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$

Albeit, seem to get further each time
MEMO, regarding your "post", I apologise, but, I donnot understand what that
procedure is for?

Sincerely

Doug Worrall
4 weeks trying this Fix {smile}

hello,Me Again
I will never give in, have been told that this newKernel of mine, has security
measures of some sort?I am a newbie, I am wrong probably?Here is the Output from
./boincmngr
ash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ bash
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ulimit -s
unlimited
bash-3.00$ cd./boincmgr
bash: cd./boincmgr: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$

Albeit, seem to get further each time
MEMO, regarding your "post", I apologise, but, I donnot understand what that
procedure is for?

Sincerely

Doug Worrall
4 weeks trying this Fix {smile}

Also if its already running you can use:
nohup ./run_client &
This will run it in the background, if you want to see the output it will be stored in a file called nohup.out

just remember to run this inside the BOINC directory

I hope this helps

I downloaded a copy of your distro I will be installing this during the weekend to help you better.

security issues with the linux kernel is something that happens all the time on all the operative systems. With this in mind I can tell you that I am 99.9% sure that it doesn't affect anything in BOINC.

Thanks Memo,
This whole "problem" has left me with no way, unless you can find out the way with this Distro,Much appreciated,

Doug

Thanks Memo,
This whole "problem" has left me with no way, unless you can find out the way with this Distro,Much appreciated,

Doug

Ok, let's try with this...

I'm, very sorry I can't read all the thread (I read a big part of it), so I'll learn it from you. It seems that you run a Mandriva-derived distro. I'm running a debian based distro and the ulimit command is working fine, but since we have different init scripts for the client, I have to learn how your script works (but I'd suggest to use a debian based distro all the way).

So, using a Mandriva-like (or Fedora Core like?) distro your client is running with doug user's permissions. I suppose doug is your main user.
If doug is your main user, absolutely DON'T give him unlimited stack in the limits.conf file, since this could be the cause of greater problems with potentially buggy apps (not necessarily docking app). If your user has unlimited stack all the way, every process started by a shell instance from doug will be potentially dangerous for your system.

So, let's understand what it happens when your system boots, by answering a question at a time (I'm not an expert in Mandriva or FC based distros, I'm in love with debian).
Do you have the client started at boot time or you have to start it manually?
This is the first fundamental thing to know. When you correctly modified the limits.conf file, the app crashed as well, is it right? Which number of minutes did it take to crash? The same number as with the original stack size?

Then can you post the run_client file?

A question: the word "FIX" in the title is to say that the problem has been fixed by an upgrade from your distro's mantainers?
Uhmmm, maybe you would have written FIXED, so I prefer to ask.


If this is the case, which size have you choose for the stack?
Anyway, it's absolutely not safe to give your main user (doug) the permission to start unlimited stack processes. So it's far better to modify the run_client script than adding a row for doug in limits.conf.

A question: the word "FIX" in the title is to say that the problem has been fixed by an upgrade from your distro's mantainers?
Uhmmm, maybe you would have written FIXED, so I prefer to ask.


If this is the case, which size have you choose for the stack?
Anyway, it's absolutely not safe to give your main user (doug) the permission to start unlimited stack processes. So it's far better to modify the run_client script than adding a row for doug in limits.conf.

Hi Doug :)
I'll try to help you, but the problem seems to lie in your distro structure, and I'm sorry I'm not an expert in Mandriva or Fedora's structure...

So, let me see what there's in that file, run_client.
Type

cd /home/doug/BOINC/
cat run_client

and post the output.
A question: at this moment, are you using `ulimit -s ...` somewhere in your system or you returned to the original options?

I don't want to deceive you, but there's a chance that your problem is solvable in few minutes, if it stays the way I suppose. If not, then it's a distro's problem. But before going on, I'll wait for your answers.

I don't want to deceive you, but there's a chance that your problem is solvable in few minutes, if it stays the way I suppose. If not, then it's a distro's problem. But before going on, I'll wait for your answers.

[quote]Its telling me that there is "no such file in directory" I assume the / are spaces
for the command I typed twice.Also I have set stack size back to 8192 by ridding
the saved Ulimit command.

[quote]Its telling me that there is "no such file in directory" I assume the / are spaces
for the command I typed twice.Also I have set stack size back to 8192 by ridding
the saved Ulimit command.

I don't understand, why should be the / spaces? :)
The / are /, everything is exactly what it seems, I'll be very precise to reach the solution to your problem in little time, if it exists (and I'm pretty sure it does). I also want you to understand what you are doing, so I'll tell exactly what to do, to avoid misunderstanding.

So, I saw in that link (you posted) that you have boinc's files in /home/doug/BOINC. Aren't they?
/ is the charecter to divide directories in a path, `cd` is the command to "go" to a directory (maybe "Current Directory"? I don't remember).

cd /home/doug/BOINC

means "go to the directory BOINC, which is in directory "doug", which is in directory "home", which is in directory / (the root directory, it's a special one).

Once you are there,

cat run_client

This command will write what's in the file on the screen.
Then you copy the output and post it here :)

I have a basic quastion.
When you start the client, what link you click on, exactly?
The one named 'boinc'?
This would be an error, probably.

[quote]Its telling me that there is "no such file in directory" I assume the / are spaces
for the command I typed twice.Also I have set stack size back to 8192 by ridding
the saved Ulimit command.

I don't understand, why should be the / spaces? :)
The / are /, everything is exactly what it seems, I'll be very precise to reach the solution to your problem in little time, if it exists (and I'm pretty sure it does). I also want you to understand what you are doing, so I'll tell exactly what to do, to avoid misunderstanding.

So, I saw in that link (you posted) that you have boinc's files in /home/doug/BOINC. Aren't they?
/ is the charecter to divide directories in a path, `cd` is the command to "go" to a directory (maybe "Current Directory"? I don't remember).

cd /home/doug/BOINC

means "go to the directory BOINC, which is in directory "doug", which is in directory "home", which is in directory / (the root directory, it's a special one).

Once you are there,

cat run_client

This command will write what's in the file on the screen.
Then you copy the output and post it here :)

I have a basic quastion.
When you start the client, what link you click on, exactly?
The one named 'boinc'?
This would be an error, probably.

I think that clicking boinc means go to boinc directory

Did you see the screen shots of Boinc Now, sems evryone else,staff, scientists, including "self" has
given-up.Every other w/u from every other experiments work, assides from UTEP,
seeing as Simap is out of the game , sure would like a Docking w/u not to error out.My
Kernel" is new and safe and unable to change things with security features.Should not have to too fascilatate w/u that do not FUbar.If i hit Boinc Manager first, the que is emty and it benches and asks to hook to experiments, that is why you hit "Boinc" first then Manager!

Let's suppose you have that file. Why are you clicking on the boinc link and not on the runc_client script? I've read something about your boinc package and I found that you have to use run_client. Most of the times it's not an optional. Bacause of this I want to look at run_client, study it and maybe modify it, then make you use it.
Have you ever used that file?

If I read well, in the forst page of this thread you said that you have inserted `ulimit -s unlimited` in the run_client file, but everything stayed he same. The problem is: if you click on boinc and not on run_client, run_client script will be ignored. I wonder why nobody here has told you.
That is not a simple text file, it's a script.

Said this, I'm sorry if I made mistakes in understanding your words, but it's often hard to me since I'm not english and sometimes your speaking is too difficult or complicated to me.

Did you see the screen shots of Boinc Now, sems evryone else,staff, scientists, including "self" has
given-up.Every other w/u from every other experiments work, assides from UTEP,
seeing as Simap is out of the game , sure would like a Docking w/u not to error out.My
Kernel" is new and safe and unable to change things with security features

I think that clicking boinc means go to boinc directory

I think that clicking boinc means go to boinc directory

He said, in the post with the link to the screenshot, that he clicks on the link wich the pointer is on (in the screenshot).

screenshot

got this from run manager
cd "/home/doug/BOINC" && exec ./boincmgr $@
My Linux expert was over a month ago twice, trying to figure this out.I just retyped in ulimit -s, and got "Unlimited", so it took when I first did it, yet,
maybe I have been messing-up trying?
Thank-you for your advice
Sincerely
Doug

Hello,
I can "easily" redo this disto from scatch 15 minutes, then the Boinc install would be "fresh" for either Slax, Damn small Linux, Mini Me, PCLINUXOS 9.2 which is big daddy now, or, Mandriva 2006, Ubuntu 5.10, MiniMe and Big Daddy are my preferences.
The instuctions for installing Boinc are REAL "Vague", at the Posts for this Distro, not 1 person understands, or, heard of it {BOINC} .Have even touched base with tex,
and he "heard" of Boinc, but new nada.I understand our Communication difficulties due too Language, and the innability to see my system "sight unseen",As you can see above, the forum Moderators were going to put this Distro in a "virtual Machine", or something.Am still waiting for advice regarding the Virtual machine.
I may do a complete reinstall, I hate to lose another Climate CHUNK, but, getting
"that error in screen shots" for Boinc Manager now, no trickles from Climate in a week, soo, a install takes about 15 minutes then to tweek, about another hour?
Regarding the scipt for run_client for Debian? could not be same as this Disto?
Sincerely
Doug*

Regarding the scipt for run_client for Debian? could not be same as this Disto?

To solve your problem with `ulimit` command.

That command applies ONLY to a shell instance, if you make the core start by clicking on a link in kde you WON'T use the unlimited stack. It's a bit difficult to explain since I'm not with you near your host, but the only way to make the `ulimit` work is to type it in a shell, then starting the CLIENT (NOT the manager, the manager is NOTHING to the client) in that shell somehow.

You said you typed `ulimit` and then started the manager. Ok, but the manager is not your problem at this moment. The problemis the client.
So, if you type `ulimit` in a shell then you click on the kde link to the client, the `ulimit` command is NO USEFUL, the client won't see it.

You have (it's what I'm trying to make you do) to modify "run_client" script, then USE THE SCRIPT. If this works, then we'll create a link in kde to make it use the script in the right way. It's not difficult, this is the only way to make the `ulimit` command work.

Regarding the scipt for run_client for Debian? could not be same as this Disto?

Debian package doesn't have the scripts run_client and run_manager, but much better scripts to run safely the client with a separate user (boinc user).
So I cannot use my script for resolving your problem, I need to look at your script.

So, if you can do exactly what I wrote before, looking at the screenshot I can see the file, why cannot you as well?

My advice is the same: use Kubuntu, and NOT use the package from boinc, but the one from Kubuntu (debian) repository.

I can see the file you speek of, yet it has "no affect" when I use it?

Besides this, have you EVER tried something like this?

1) modifying run_client by adding ulimit -s unlimited as the first row
2) typing in a terminal (being in the /home/doug/BOINC directory)
./run_client
or at least clicking on the link to run_client to make it start

Have you ever tried?

Besides this, have you EVER tried something like this?

1) modifying run_client by adding ulimit -s unlimited as the first row
2) typing in a terminal (being in the /home/doug/BOINC directory)
./run_client
or at least clicking on the link to run_client to make it start

Have you ever tried?

Really am not "understanding" what the please,etc.. is about, but this is over for me.I can run anyother experiment with great credits for Linux, and am not concerned regarding Docking.Have been crunching flawlessly assides "Docking".
Thank you for your concern, but, I donnot have the time for ONE Exeriment
that does not work."So Be It"
Sincerely
"over and OUT"
Sluger

Thanks for your help Daniele. It's okay if the ulimit fix doesn't work for some people. We are working on another more permanent solution and when that is released, Charmm will hopefully work for all users.

Thanks for your help again! Much appreciated.

Andre

So, we finally came to something serious.
All my posts were headed to help docking@home, and help you at the same time.
But if you say you can run another project, this mean you're not a good alpha tester. In fact, you are not an alpha tester at all, since you can't manage your system.

I thoughy for a moment you wanted to help and to improve your know-how, but probably this is too diffcult for your, at this moment.

Have a good time crunching.

PS: docking@home IS working, fine

So, we finally came to something serious.
All my posts were headed to help docking@home, and help you at the same time.
But if you say you can run another project, this mean you're not a good alpha tester. In fact, you are not an alpha tester at all, since you can't manage your system.

I thought for a moment you wanted to help and to improve your know-how, but probably this is too difficult for your, at this moment.

Have a good time crunching.

PS: docking@home IS working, fine

Have you tried with ulimit -s unlimited? I tested several stack limits, but only unlimited seems to go through. Let me know if that still gives you problems. If it does, we might be looking at another issue.

Thanks
Andre

So, we finally came to something serious.
All my posts were headed to help docking@home, and help you at the same time.
But if you say you can run another project, this mean you're not a good alpha tester. In fact, you are not an alpha tester at all, since you can't manage your system.

I thought for a moment you wanted to help and to improve your know-how, but probably this is too difficult for your, at this moment.

Have a good time crunching.

PS: docking@home IS working, fine

We couldn't help Doug, but maybe you can help me get it working on one of my machines. I have it working on Fedora Core 3, but can't get it to run on a RedHat RHEL3 machine that is command line only. The kernel is (uname -a)

Linux xxxxxxxxxxxx 2.4.21-47.0.1.EL #1 Fri Oct 13 18:04:55 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Here's the last part of the section of my /etc/init.d/boinc that starts the client.

cd $BOINCDIR

if [ -f lockfile ] ; then
echo -n "Another instance of BOINC is running (lockfile exists)."
echo_failure
echo
exit 4
fi

if [ ! -f client_state.xml ] ; then
echo -n "The BOINC client requires initialization."
echo_warning
echo
fi

echo -n "Starting BOINC client as a daemon: "
ulimit -s 199000
ulimit -d 512000
ulimit -v 512000
su $BOINCUSER -c "ulimit -a" >>$LOGFILE 2>>$ERRORLOG
su $BOINCUSER -c "nice --adjustment=19 $BOINCEXE $BOINCOPTS" >>$LOGFILE 2>>$ERRORLOG &
sleep 1
PID=`pidof -s -x -o $$ -o $PPID -o %PPID $BOINCEXE`
if [ $PID ]; then
touch $LOCKDIR/boinc
echo_success
else
echo_failure
fi
echo
;;

Increasing the stack size did seem to stick and after this, the run time for a Docking@Home WU still failed after about 400 seconds with Exit status : 1 (0x1). The new longer Work Units run about 750 seconds before getting the same error.

Here's the output from the "ulimit -a" in the boinc logfile from the first su command, followed by the startup of boinc 5.2.13. I'm still on 5.2.13 because I haven't figured out how to change the init script to run BOINC 5.4.9 as a service, but that's a separate issue.

core file size (blocks, -c) 1000000
data seg size (kbytes, -d) 512000
file size (blocks, -f) unlimited
max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 4
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files (-n) 4096
pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8
stack size (kbytes, -s) 199000
cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes (-u) 14335
virtual memory (kbytes, -v) 512000
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [---] Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for i686-pc-linux-gnu
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [---] libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [---] Data directory: /home/BOINC
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [---] Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [---] Memory: 1.95 GB physical, 1.95 GB virtual
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [---] Disk: 16.02 GB total, 11.69 GB free
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [Einstein@Home] Computer ID: 544961; location: work; project prefs: default
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [SETI@home] Computer ID: 2185126; location: work; project prefs: default
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [lhcathome] Computer ID: 113223; location: work; project prefs: default
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [rosetta@home] Computer ID: 211470; location: work; project prefs: work
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [Docking@Home] Computer ID: 223; location: work; project prefs: default
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [---] General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 2006-10-22 08:20:21)
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [---] General prefs: no separate prefs for work; using your defaults
2006-10-25 19:50:12 [---] Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
2006-10-25 19:50:14 [---] Running CPU benchmarks
2006-10-25 19:51:13 [---] Benchmark results:
2006-10-25 19:51:13 [---] Number of CPUs: 1
2006-10-25 19:51:13 [---] 645 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
2006-10-25 19:51:13 [---] 1234 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
2006-10-25 19:51:13 [---] Finished CPU benchmarks
2006-10-25 19:51:14 [rosetta@home] Resuming computation for result 1ogw__LARS_ABRELAX_PAIR5_BARCODE__1294_4165_0 using roset$
2006-10-25 19:51:14 [Einstein@Home] Deferring computation for result l1_0343.5_S5R1__5823_S5R1a_0
2006-10-25 19:51:14 [---] Resuming computation and network activity
2006-10-25 19:51:14 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: Resuming activities

Any guesses what else needs to be changed?

Once it's running, I control it by logging in as a regular user, doing "su -" to switch to root (I have ssh configured to not allow direct root login), then as root I do "su boinc" and "cd ~" which puts me in the correct directory. After that I use ./boinc_cmd to control the boinc client running as a service. Other projects work fine, but I've never gotten Docking@home to work, even though the "ulimit -s 199000" in the init.d script does seem to work.

Any Suggestions?

-- David

Really am not "understanding" what the please,etc.. is about, but this is over for me.I can run anyother experiment with great credits for Linux, and am not concerned regarding Docking.Have been crunching flawlessly assides "Docking".
Thank you for your concern, but, I donnot have the time for ONE Exeriment
that does not work."So Be It"
Sincerely
"over and OUT"
Sluger

So, we finally came to something serious.
All my posts were headed to help docking@home, and help you at the same time.
But if you say you can run another project, this mean you're not a good alpha tester. In fact, you are not an alpha tester at all, since you can't manage your system.

I thoughy for a moment you wanted to help and to improve your know-how, but probably this is too diffcult for your, at this moment.

Have a good time crunching.

PS: docking@home IS working, fine

Have you tried with ulimit -s unlimited? I tested several stack limits, but only unlimited seems to go through. Let me know if that still gives you problems. If it does, we might be looking at another issue.

Thanks
Andre

             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached

Mem:       2042396    2029432      12964          0     147944    1496148

-/+ buffers/cache:     385340    1657056

Swap:      2040212       5996    2034216

Have you tried with ulimit -s unlimited? I tested several stack limits, but only unlimited seems to go through. Let me know if that still gives you problems. If it does, we might be looking at another issue.

Thanks
Andre

OK, I changed /etc/init.d/boinc to set the stack to unlimited and I doubled the memory values to about 1 GB. Here's the boinc.log from where I started the service up again (as dumped from nano so long lines end in $).

core file size (blocks, -c) 1000000
data seg size (kbytes, -d) 1024000
file size (blocks, -f) unlimited
max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 4
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files (-n) 4096
pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8
stack size (kbytes, -s) unlimited
cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes (-u) 14335
virtual memory (kbytes, -v) 1024000
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [---] Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for i686-pc-linux-gnu
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [---] libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [---] Data directory: /home/BOINC
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [---] Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [---] Memory: 1.95 GB physical, 1.95 GB virtual
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [---] Disk: 16.02 GB total, 11.74 GB free
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [Docking@Home] Computer ID: 223; location: work; project prefs: work
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [SETI@home] Computer ID: 2185126; location: work; project prefs: default
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [rosetta@home] Computer ID: 211470; location: work; project prefs: default
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [---] General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2006-10-26 00:43:33)
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [---] General prefs: no separate prefs for work; using your defaults
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [---] Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [SETI@home] Deferring computation for result 15my03aa.5778.10817.823572.3.230_1
2006-10-26 20:17:09 [rosetta@home] Resuming computation for result 1hz6A_BOINC_NATIVEJUMPS_CLOSE_CHAINBREAKS_VARY_ALL_BOND_A$

Now, it's just a matter of waiting for it to get another WU. Because of the errors, it's only allowed to download 1 WU per day :-)

BTW, the machine has 2 GB of RAM and 2 GB of swap. Here's the output of free while it's running boinc and a Rosetta WU.

             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached

Mem:       2042396    2029432      12964          0     147944    1496148

-/+ buffers/cache:     385340    1657056

Swap:      2040212       5996    2034216

Thanks,

-- David

EDIT: If this doesn't work, I'm going to try increasing the max locked memory to 32, since that's what it is on my other linux box (FC3) that works. BTW, the RAM on the RHEL3 box is ECC and the machine works reliably with only a reboot for kernel or hardware upgrades and there haven't been any hardware upgrades in several months, maybe close to a year. Both boxes are running libsafe so that isn't it. Rosetta works great on both Linux boxes, as did Predictor@Home, before it stopped handing out work.

OK, I changed /etc/init.d/boinc to set the stack to unlimited and I doubled the memory values to about 1 GB. Here's the boinc.log from where I started the service up again (as dumped from nano so long lines end in $).

Thanks for your help Daniele. It's okay if the ulimit fix doesn't work for some people. We are working on another more permanent solution and when that is released, Charmm will hopefully work for all users.

Thanks for your help again! Much appreciated.

Andre

So, we finally came to something serious.
All my posts were headed to help docking@home, and help you at the same time.
But if you say you can run another project, this mean you're not a good alpha tester. In fact, you are not an alpha tester at all, since you can't manage your system.

I thoughy for a moment you wanted to help and to improve your know-how, but probably this is too diffcult for your, at this moment.

Have a good time crunching.

PS: docking@home IS working, fine

Have you tried with ulimit -s unlimited? I tested several stack limits, but only unlimited seems to go through. Let me know if that still gives you problems. If it does, we might be looking at another issue.

Thanks
Andre

OK, I changed /etc/init.d/boinc to set the stack to unlimited and I doubled the memory values to about 1 GB. Here's the boinc.log from where I started the service up again (as dumped from nano so long lines end in $).

[code]core file size (blocks, -c) 1000000
data seg size (kbytes, -d) 1024000
file size (blocks, -f) unlimited
max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 4
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files (-n) 4096
pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8
stack size (kbytes, -s) unlimited
cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes (-u) 14335
virtual memory (kbytes, -v) 1024000

I'm still on 5.2.13 because I haven't figured out how to change the init script to run BOINC 5.4.9 as a service, but that's a separate issue.

OK, I changed /etc/init.d/boinc to set the stack to unlimited and I doubled the memory values to about 1 GB. Here's the boinc.log from where I started the service up again (as dumped from nano so long lines end in $).

So run_client is using a script in /etc/boinc as well.
I just tried to get this information for two days, by asking the content of that script (run_client). Changing that script is what I did to have my system working, as I said you can change what you want in /etc/security/limits.conf, but the changes will not be used by the client, 'cause those changes only apply to a shell instance. So, to have them working, you must start the client from a shell, i.e. using a script.

Anyway, have fun.

Daniele: I think you are confusing me (David) with Doug. I have boinc running as a service on a non-graphical Redhat Enterprise Linux 3 machine. Everything on that machine is done via command line. Boinc is running as a daemon. On that version of Linux, /etc/security/limits.conf is ignored unless you re-configure PAM. I tried that earlier and set the stack limit for user boinc to a large number, but the Docking@Home work unit still got the error, so I backed out the PAM changes. I suspect that, in addition to the unlimited stack change, I am also going to have to set the max locked memory higher by doing "ulimit -l 32". By the way, even on my other Linux machine which has a graphical interface, I do almost everything on Linux from a command line. I am 50 years old and started programing during the 1970's, in the days of CP/M on the 8080/8085/Z-80, OS/8 on the PDP-8, timeshare terminals on CDC (Control Data Corporation) mainframes, and I even did assembler and Cobol using punched cards on IBM 360 and 370. I have even thought about writing a command line boinc manager (similar to top) that uses curses for those of us who have some Linux machines that are command line only.

I suspect that, in addition to the unlimited stack change, I am also going to have to set the max locked memory higher by doing "ulimit -l 32".

I am 50 years old and started programing during the 1970's, in the days of CP/M on the 8080/8085/Z-80, OS/8 on the PDP-8, timeshare terminals on CDC (Control Data Corporation) mainframes, and I even did assembler and Cobol using punched cards on IBM 360 and 370. I have even thought about writing a command line boinc manager (similar to top) that uses curses for those of us who have some Linux machines that are command line only.

I am 50 years old and started programing during the 1970's, in the days of CP/M on the 8080/8085/Z-80, OS/8 on the PDP-8, timeshare terminals on CDC (Control Data Corporation) mainframes, and I even did assembler and Cobol using punched cards on IBM 360 and 370. I have even thought about writing a command line boinc manager (similar to top) that uses curses for those of us who have some Linux machines that are command line only.

I'm fond of experienced programmers, I'd have a whole bunch of questions for you. I'm still young, anyway I've my little experience too, being an informatics engineer, though I'm not so expert in linux administration, I study computational linguistics (and I've to improve my english for this).
When I finish my current work, I'd like to set up a boinc project for natural language processing ENTIRELY based on neural networks. I really hate neural networks, but they permit the distribution of processing.

i686 32bit Linux 2.6.16.27.tex1 kernel (4GB highmem)
The kernel package contains the Linux 2.6.16.27.tex1 kernel, the core of your
PCLinux operating system. It is optimised for the i686 cpu arch and supports up to
and including 4GB of system memory (via highmem).

Dave, or Dannielle

Would a new Kernel maybe help?I have many choices to use from my Repos, above is one choice.
Thanks
Doug

I apologise for not understanding what you would like me too do

i686 32bit Linux 2.6.16.27.tex1 kernel (4GB highmem)
The kernel package contains the Linux 2.6.16.27.tex1 kernel, the core of your
PCLinux operating system. It is optimised for the i686 cpu arch and supports up to
and including 4GB of system memory (via highmem).

Dave, or Dannielle

Would a new Kernel maybe help?I have many choices to use from my Repos, above is one choice.
Thanks
Doug

bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ cd/doug/home/BOINC
bash: cd/doug/home/BOINC: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$ ls-al
bash: ls-al: command not found
bash-3.00$ ls - al
ls: -: No such file or directory
ls: al: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$ cd/etc./init.d
bash: cd/etc./init.d: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$ cd/etc/init.d
bash: cd/etc/init.d: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$


Dear Dannielle,

Thanks for your ongoing help.Must be me and this Distro that is going wrong.
But will do all that is neccasary to help you, help me and Docking.First, I used
the Linux console and got this above.At the top doug@localhost:command not found
was there when I trped this,Will clear it next time, if possible.I am not getting "output" from the commands.No such file, yet I see the file in Home, just as you said.Thanks for letting me know too enter after each line, help for dummies.Have those commands stored on Kedit and will keep trying for some results for you.
Thanks, will try again

Doug

ash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ cd/home/doug/BOINC
bash: cd/home/doug/BOINC: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$ ls-al
bash: ls-al: command not found
bash-3.00$ cd/etc/init.d
bash: cd/etc/init.d: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$ ulimit -s
unlimited
bash-3.00$


Tried again Dannielle,
NOTE, the ulimit -s command gave me an unlimited from saving it as so.

Doug

bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ cd/doug/home/BOINC
bash: cd/doug/home/BOINC: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$ ls-al
bash: ls-al: command not found
bash-3.00$ ls - al
ls: -: No such file or directory
ls: al: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$ cd/etc./init.d
bash: cd/etc./init.d: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$ cd/etc/init.d
bash: cd/etc/init.d: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$

If you prefer, I can send you a script (a little shell program) by mail to collect some informations :)
You'll only have to copy it on your desktop and type a line in the console.

bash-3.00$ ls -al
total 8472
drwxr-xr-x 3 doug doug 4096 Oct 26 08:34 .
drwxr-xr-x 38 doug doug 4096 Oct 27 18:55 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 256 May 5 15:36 binstall.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 257 Sep 25 15:09 binstall.sh~
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 1744688 May 5 15:36 boinc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 434320 May 5 15:36 boinc_cmd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 6402756 May 5 15:36 boincmgr
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1264 May 5 15:36 boincmgr.16x16.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1786 May 5 15:36 boincmgr.32x32.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 558 May 5 15:36 boincmgr.8x8.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1857 Oct 26 08:34 client_state.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1857 Oct 26 08:34 client_state_prev.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 0 Oct 26 08:34 do_fp
-rw------- 1 doug doug 32 Aug 25 06:20 gui_rpc_auth.cfg
drwxr-xr-x 33 doug doug 4096 May 5 15:36 locale
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 0 Aug 25 06:20 lockfile
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 41 Sep 26 11:54 run_client
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 44 Oct 11 15:20 run_manager
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 44 Oct 11 15:20 run_manager~
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 0 Aug 25 06:20 stderrdae.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 5281 Oct 26 08:34 stdoutdae.txt
bash-3.00$

Hello Danniele,

Looks like you are a GOOD Teacher, at least I got a print from the command, Wow
those are read write in the files, no that much. anyways.I have No idea what to do, but, hope this is of help to you.If you want to send a thing by mail, would you like my gmail address?Will the information "be of service to you"?

Thanks
Doug

bash-3.00$ ls -al
...
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 41 Sep 26 11:54 run_client
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 44 Oct 11 15:20 run_manager
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 44 Oct 11 15:20 run_manager~
...

I need also the output of this command.
While the boinc system (the client, the manager and one app, not Charmm for now) is running, type

ps axu | grep boinc

This is important and we'll need it to see something about the client and Charmm while they are running. Maybe later we'll add some options to know something particular, if necessary.

bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ cd /home/doug/BOINC
bash-3.00$ cat run_client
cd "/home/doug/BOINC" && exec ./boinc $@
bash-3.00$

I am sorry Dannielle, I used the shell entered cd /home/doug/BOINC "Enter"
than I typed cat run_client.
I have never started Boinc with with run_client, only KDE Menu
first I click on the BOINC, and then, I click on the Boinc Manager
also in the KDE Menu
After my Manager got that error, as seen on {screen shots}, I overwrote the installed Boinc from 2 Months prior {when I applyed this system 2 months ago}
about 9 days ago I overwrote BOINC, I downloaded a new shell script and put it over top of the old one.
Did you want me to go right into run_client with Kedit? I must have done this wrong also, still affected from Medication, awful stuff and Morphine, apologise
for my daftness{Dumbness} I will ive NO-Biggy
Let me know what is best
Thank you

Doug
Just saw your last post,
How do I type "Aproximitly" ps axu [ grep home, what is in the middle, cannot see it, too confirm it, also, is this done with a shell, or Kedit and in run_manager?, or with the "Shell" program?

Sincerely
Doug

Hello Dannielle,
It is Friday night at 9:30, must go to sleep.Will be "On Line" again in 10
Hours from now, around 8A.M. Saturday.I donnot know the time in Italy, but
just wanted you to know I will be back in 10 Hours from now.Thank-you

Sincerely
Doug*

How do I type "Aproximitly" ps axu [ grep home, what is in the middle, cannot see it, too confirm it, also, is this done with a shell, or Kedit and in run_manager?, or with the "Shell" program?

Hello Dannielle,
It is Friday night at 9:30, must go to sleep.Will be "On Line" again in 10
Hours from now, around 8A.M. Saturday.I donnot know the time in Italy, but
just wanted you to know I will be back in 10 Hours from now.Thank-you

Sincerely
Doug*

:D I'm not confusing you with doug, I "used" your words to imply something on what I was trying to know from Doug :)

If you are using the "standard" boinc package (as doug), i.e not the debian's one, you probably have the same files as Doug. Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore (at least for now).

Regarding limits.conf, I'll repeat what I've learned. But first I have some questions, since I'm not sure I'm using the right words to say what I want to, and I'n not sure I understand every single word of yours.

Given that:
you're using kernel 2.4 (different from 2.6)
you're using Red Hat (different from Debian)

then I'd like to make you a question or two, just to understand if I have understood.

First of all, are you using the package with run_client script or another package (mine has not, for example)?

You changed PAM settings and modified limits.conf, then got the same errors.
Did I understand?

When you start the core_client, which user do you use and with wich user's permissions do you run the client? For example, I run the client by starting the script as root or daniele, but the client runs with boinc user's permissions (I do this by using the `start-stop daemon` command with the --user parameter set to $BOINC_USER, so I can change the "running user" by modifying that variable).

I'm saying this because if you change, let's make an example. If you modify limits.conf by setting unlimites stack for "David" user, but you start the script with root, the changes won't be used because those limits apply only to a shell instance eventually started by "David", not to a generic process owned by "David". So the changes will work only if you start the client using "David", if the client runs with David permissions.

I had a similar problem modifying limits.conf for "boinc" user and not having that changes working, since the client was started by root at boot time.

Also if you think I can't help you, would you mind answering just to let me learn? :)

core file size (blocks, -c) 1000000
data seg size (kbytes, -d) 1536000
file size (blocks, -f) unlimited
max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 32
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files (-n) 4096
pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8
stack size (kbytes, -s) unlimited
cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes (-u) 14335
virtual memory (kbytes, -v) 1536000
2006-10-27 14:32:48 [---] Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for i686-pc-linux-gnu
2006-10-27 14:32:48 [---] libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
2006-10-27 14:32:48 [---] Data directory: /home/BOINC
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [---] Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [---] Memory: 1.95 GB physical, 1.95 GB virtual
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [---] Disk: 16.02 GB total, 11.73 GB free
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [Docking@Home] Computer ID: 223; location: work; project prefs: work
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [SETI@home] Computer ID: 2185126; location: work; project prefs: default
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [rosetta@home] Computer ID: 211470; location: work; project prefs: default
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [---] General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2006-10-26 00:43:33)
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [---] General prefs: no separate prefs for work; using your defaults
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [---] Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [SETI@home] Resuming computation for result 15my03aa.5778.10817.823572.3.230_1 using setiathome_enhanced$
2006-10-27 14:32:49 [rosetta@home] Deferring computation for result 1hz6A_BOINC_NATIVEJUMPS_SAVE_ALL_OUT__1306_34680_0
2006-10-27 15:05:21 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: project op
2006-10-27 15:05:22 [SETI@home] Pausing result 15my03aa.5778.10817.823572.3.230_1 (left in memory)
2006-10-27 15:05:22 [rosetta@home] Restarting result 1hz6A_BOINC_NATIVEJUMPS_SAVE_ALL_OUT__1306_34680_0 using rosetta versio$
2006-10-27 15:05:26 [Docking@Home] Sending scheduler request to http://docking.utep.edu/docking_cgi/cgi
2006-10-27 15:05:26 [Docking@Home] Reason: Requested by user
2006-10-27 15:05:26 [Docking@Home] Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
2006-10-27 15:05:31 [Docking@Home] Scheduler request to http://docking.utep.edu/docking_cgi/cgi succeeded
2006-10-27 15:05:31 [Docking@Home] Message from server: No work sent
2006-10-27 15:05:31 [Docking@Home] Message from server: (reached daily quota of 1 results)
2006-10-27 15:10:39 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: project op

root      7835  0.0  0.0  5192  812 ?        S    Oct27   0:00 su boinc -c nice --adjustment=19 /home/BOINC/boinc -return_re$

boinc     7836  0.0  0.1  4688 2512 ?        SN   Oct27   0:00 /home/BOINC/boinc -return_results_immediately

boinc     7840  0.0  1.4 38112 29360 ?       SN   Oct27   0:00 setiathome-5.12.i686-pc-linux-gnu

boinc     7841  0.0  1.4 38112 29360 ?       SN   Oct27   0:00 setiathome-5.12.i686-pc-linux-gnu

boinc     7842 15.0  1.4 38112 29360 ?       SN   Oct27  87:36 setiathome-5.12.i686-pc-linux-gnu

boinc     7843  0.0  1.4 38112 29360 ?       SN   Oct27   0:00 setiathome-5.12.i686-pc-linux-gnu

boinc    11641 92.4  3.1 85656 63568 ?       RN   Oct27 201:15 rosetta_5.34_i686-pc-linux-gnu xx 1dtj _ -output_silent_gz -s$

boinc    11649  0.0  3.1 85656 63568 ?       SN   Oct27   0:00 rosetta_5.34_i686-pc-linux-gnu xx 1dtj _ -output_silent_gz -s$

boinc    11652  0.0  3.1 85656 63568 ?       SN   Oct27   0:00 rosetta_5.34_i686-pc-linux-gnu xx 1dtj _ -output_silent_gz -s$

boinc    11656  0.0  3.1 85656 63568 ?       SN   Oct27   0:00 rosetta_5.34_i686-pc-linux-gnu xx 1dtj _ -output_silent_gz -s$

bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 3054 0.0 0.3 4472 2424 ? S 05:19 0:00 /home/doug/BOINC/boinc
doug 3058 0.3 0.7 10040 6076 ? S 05:19 0:01 /home/doug/BOINC/boincmgr
doug 3118 0.0 0.0 1784 484 pts/0 S 05:24 0:00 grep boinc
bash-3.00$


This is "all" I received from ps axu | grep boinc, while it is running, Malaria Control, also addded the line using Kedit "ulimit -s unlimited" in run_manger

Sincerly
Doug

Hello Dave {Smile}

Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||Starting BOINC client version 5.4.9 for i686-pc-linux-gnu
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||libcurl/7.15.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||Data directory: /home/doug
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||Memory: 749.28 MB physical, 1.56 GB virtual
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||Disk: 18.62 GB total, 17.68 GB free
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006|climateprediction.net|URL: http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID: 473373; location: home; project prefs: default
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006|malariacontrol.net beta|URL: http://www.malariacontrol.net/; Computer ID: 7568; location: home; project prefs: default
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006|Docking@Home|URL: http://docking.utep.edu/; Computer ID: 98; location: home; project prefs: default
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006|boincsimap|URL: http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/; Computer ID: 37849; location: home; project prefs: default
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||General prefs: from malariacontrol.net beta (last modified 2006-10-25 17:15:35)
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||Local control only allowed
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||Listening on port 31416
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006|climateprediction.net|Deferring task hadcm3lbm_blbb_25310106_0
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006|malariacontrol.net beta|Resuming task wu_11_34_10204_0_2120349614_0 using malariacontrol version 542
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||Using earliest-deadline-first scheduling because computer is overcommitted.
Sat Oct 28 05:19:19 2006||Suspending work fetch because computer is overcommitted.


All I have in my que is a climate Model and a Malaria w/u, yet P.C. is overcommited

Be Well

Doug

Good Morning Danniele,
Would you use this?
for your Debian?

I'm pleased to announce the release of Rekall 2.4.4. This release can be
downloaded from

http://www.rekallrevealed.org/packages/

For those unfamiliar with Rekall, Rekall is a database front end, in
the style of Access, Knoda and Kexi.

The most notable changes since 2.4.2 are:

* ODBC and SQLite3 drivers
* Tests and test suite functionality

This release is known to build on "stock" installs of:

Debian: Sarge, Sid
Suse: 9.3, 10.0, 10.1
Fedora: 5
Mepis: 6.0
Kubuntu: 6.06
Freespire
Xandros 3.01

Features
--------

*
Builds and runs under KDE, QT3-only on Linux, Windows and Mac OS/X.
Despite comments to the contrary on a certain other website, Rekall is
first and foremost a KDE application; non-KDE builds are supported by a
compatability library. Builds as a full and a run-time version; the
run-time version has no design functionality.

*
Database documents (forms, reports, etc.) can be stored in either the
database or the filesystem. Database allows easy sharing, etc., file
system can be used if (for example) you have read-only access to the
database and just want to view it.

Just came in, ran a charm w/u just for fun, errored out, but, got further this time.4.54%
Sincerely
Doug

I'll probably have to edit this to make sure the BBcodes I used are balanced properly :-)

bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 3054 0.0 0.3 4472 2424 ? S 05:19 0:00 /home/doug/BOINC/boinc
doug 3058 0.3 0.7 10040 6076 ? S 05:19 0:01 /home/doug/BOINC/boincmgr
doug 3118 0.0 0.0 1784 484 pts/0 S 05:24 0:00 grep boinc
bash-3.00$


This is "all" I received from ps axu | grep boinc, while it is running, Malaria Control, also addded the line using Kedit "ulimit -s unlimited" in run_manger

bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 3054 0.0 0.3 4472 2424 ? S 05:19 0:00 /home/doug/BOINC/boinc
doug 3058 0.3 0.7 10040 6076 ? S 05:19 0:01 /home/doug/BOINC/boincmgr
doug 3118 0.0 0.0 1784 484 pts/0 S 05:24 0:00 grep boinc
bash-3.00$


This is "all" I received from ps axu | grep boinc, while it is running, Malaria Control, also addded the line using Kedit "ulimit -s unlimited" in run_manger

Hi Doug :)

Maybe it's a mistake in writing, but you have to add "ulimit -s unlimited" as the first line in run_client, not run_manager (the manager doesn't need such a permission).

So, modify run_client script, then save it.
Then stop the client, and since I don't know how your client works, it's better if you restart the whole system.
When you have restarted, don't start the client in kde, but open a console and type

cd /home/doug/BOINC
./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC

Note: not REDIRECTION, but REDIRECTIO
So you will use the script to start the client, and the unlimited stack should be used.

Then launch the manager the way you usually do it.

After launching the client

ps axu | grep boinc

and post the output.

This is the simplest thing we can do, a starting point.

PS: it's probable that you have en error in .bashrc or .bash_profile, those lines on the top of the shell (8192: command not found etc) are not good.

Hello Dannielle,
yes, that was a typing error, I saved the ulimit -s unlimited in the correct file.When I did the commands, received no OUTPUT, but, would not let me start
the Manager due to "wrong password", LOL This is fun actually, I understand
your School is more Important than helping a dummy, Was able to get Boinc going the old way, seeing as this way did not, may have mistyped, so will continue typing and trying.
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 6378 0.0 0.3 4472 2432 ? S 10:20 0:00 /home/doug/BOINC/boinc
doug 6386 0.2 0.7 10040 6072 ? S 10:20 0:00 /home/doug/BOINC/boincmgr
bash-3.00$ cd /home/doug/BOINC
bash-3.00$ ./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC

Has to be the localhost not found, BIG problem ehh?

Hello Dannielle,
yes, that was a typing error, I saved the ulimit -s unlimited in the correct file.When I did the commands, received no OUTPUT, but, would not let me start
the Manager due to "wrong password", LOL This is fun actually, I understand
your School is more Important than helping a dummy, Was able to get Boinc going the old way, seeing as this way did not, may have mistyped, so will continue typing and trying.
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 6378 0.0 0.3 4472 2432 ? S 10:20 0:00 /home/doug/BOINC/boinc
doug 6386 0.2 0.7 10040 6072 ? S 10:20 0:00 /home/doug/BOINC/boincmgr
bash-3.00$ cd /home/doug/BOINC
bash-3.00$ ./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC

Has to be the localhost not found, BIG problem ehh?

So, what happened exactly?
You restarted the system, then typed

./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC

and the manager didn't connect to the client?
This could be due to how the manager works, I don't know it very well yet.
Anyway, if things are this way, when you restart the system (everytime you start the client you have to stop it first, and since it's difficult for you to safely kill the process, maybe it's better if you reboot the system) try this. The problem of manager not connecting to the client is not a real problem, we only need to learn or (better) someone who knows about this stuff.
Try this, and let's see the output (remember, don't use the usual way to start the client and the manager, use only the console).
I need a `ps axu | grep boinc` BEFORE executing any other application

cd /home/doug/BOINC
ps axu | grep boinc
./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC
./run_manager --verbose
ps axu | grep boinc

I read something about manager not being able to connect, and it's really a dumb problem (it seems like a little bug or similar in the manager).
Anyway, it's solvable :)

After the sequence I wrote before, type

ls -al (just to let me see which new files have been created)
cat gui_rpc_auth.cfg

and let me see what's in.

It seems that the manager is not able to remember blank passwords :)

For now don't make what follows...
If this is your problem, then you'll need to rewrite the password in that file (choose one, but be careful, the file must contain only the password, with a RETURN character at the end), and if it works you will return to the blank password (this way it will remember it, a real dumb problem).
It the password in gui_rpc_auth.cfg is not blank, then use that password to connect to the client. If it works, then we'll modify the password to the blank one.

cd /home/doug/BOINC
ps axu | grep boinc
./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC
./run_manager --verbose
ps axu | grep boinc

Hello Dannielle,
what happened, Boinc did not start up, checked thru KSGaurd, then tried starting the Boinc the old way and said I was using the wrong password? Go Figure ?
This is the OUTPUT from the last try
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 3076 0.0 0.0 1788 488 pts/0 S 11:10 0:00 grep boinc
bash-3.00$ cd /home/doug/BOINC
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 3078 0.0 0.0 1752 244 pts/0 R 11:12 0:00 grep boinc
bash-3.00$ ./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug BOINC
Unknown option: BOINC

To simplify your work, I repeat here the whole sequence

cd /home/doug/BOINC
ps axu | grep boinc
./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC
ls -al
cat gui_rpc_auth.cfg
./run_manager --verbose
ps axu | grep boinc

In little time we'll know if your problem is due to the distro or not.

To simplify your work, I repeat here the whole sequence

cd /home/doug/BOINC
ps axu | grep boinc
./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC
ls -al
cat gui_rpc_auth.cfg
./run_manager --verbose
ps axu | grep boinc

In little time we'll know if your problem is due to the distro or not.

Sorry, will do that again, just looked and saw the wrong commands
Maybe , yes will redo it.I am doing something wrong, I have Rebooted
and done badly 5 times, the last time I Posted was wrong, will give head shake here.
Thanks Danniele
Doug

bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 3039 0.0 0.0 1756 176 pts/0 R 18:27 0:00 grep boinc
bash-3.00$ cd /home/doug/BOINC
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 3041 0.0 0.0 1784 484 pts/0 S 18:28 0:00 grep boinc
bash-3.00$ ./run_client -redirectio -dir home/doug/BOINC
chdir: No such file or directory
./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC
ls al
cat gui_rpc_auth.cfg
./run_manager --verbose
ps axu | grep boinc
I am trying my 8th try, guess either my typing, this last time, using Kedit
to paste the commands in, but having difficuties.Must be my Ditro, sorry I donnot know it better.Will study the command lines that this system uses, its in the MANUAL, again tonight, and I know you need to study also, for your Exams."Good Luck" Dannilele
Sincerely
Doug

bash: 8192: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash: [doug@localhost: command not found
bash-3.00$ cd /home/doug/BOINC
bash-3.00$ ps axu | grep boinc
doug 4767 0.0 0.0 1788 488 pts/0 S 19:47 0:00 grep boinc
bash-3.00$ ./run_client -redirectio -dir/home/doug/BOINC
Unknown option: -dir/home/doug/BOINC
Usage: ./boinc [options]
-help show options
-version show version info
-exit_when_idle Get/process/report work, then exit
-show_projects show attached projects
-return_results_immediately contact server when have results
-detach_project <URL> detach from a project
-reset_project <URL> reset (clear) a project
-attach_project <URL> <key> attach to a project
-update_prefs <URL> contact a project to update preferences
-run_cpu_benchmarks run the CPU benchmarks
-check_all_logins for idle detection, check remote logins
too -allow_remote_gui_rpc allow remote GUI RPC connections
-gui_rpc_port port for GUI RPCs
-redirectio redirect stdout and stderr to log files
-detach detach from console (Windows)
-dir <path> use given dir as BOINC home
-no_gui_rpc don't allow GUI RPC, don't make socket
-daemon run as daemon (Unix)
bash-3.00$ ls -al
total 8500
drwxr-xr-x 3 doug doug 4096 Oct 28 18:33 .
drwxr-xr-x 38 doug doug 4096 Oct 28 19:30 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 256 May 5 15:36 binstall.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 257 Sep 25 15:09 binstall.sh~
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 1744688 May 5 15:36 boinc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 434320 May 5 15:36 boinc_cmd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 6402756 May 5 15:36 boincmgr
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1264 May 5 15:36 boincmgr.16x16.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1786 May 5 15:36 boincmgr.32x32.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 558 May 5 15:36 boincmgr.8x8.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1893 Oct 28 18:33 client_state.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1893 Oct 28 18:30 client_state_prev.xml
-rw------- 1 doug doug 32 Aug 25 06:20 gui_rpc_auth.cfg
drwxr-xr-x 33 doug doug 4096 May 5 15:36 locale
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 0 Aug 25 06:20 lockfile
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 61 Oct 28 05:17 run_client
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 41 Sep 26 11:54 run_client~
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 44 Oct 11 15:20 run_manager
-rwxr-xr-x 1 doug doug 44 Oct 11 15:20 run_manager~
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 1527 Oct 28 10:27 stderrdae.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 doug doug 27240 Oct 28 18:33 stdoutdae.txt
bash-3.00$ cat gui_rpc_auth,cfg
cat: gui_rpc_auth,cfg: No such file or directory
bash-3.00$ cat gui_rpc_auth.cfg
93bee0bf9ddd711f2182b4280613f450bash-3.00$ ./run_manager --verbose
send: -1
send: Bad file descriptor
connect: Connection refused
connect: Operation now in progress
ps axu | grep boinc
Got it,

Took a while to see my typing errors, will also put output from Boinc Manager
Here:Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||Starting BOINC client version 5.4.9 for i686-pc-linux-gnu
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||libcurl/7.15.3 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||Data directory: /home/doug/BOINC
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||Memory: 749.28 MB physical, 1.56 GB virtual
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||Disk: 18.62 GB total, 17.75 GB free
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||Local control only allowed
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||Listening on port 31416
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||This computer is not attached to any projects
Sat Oct 28 19:50:00 2006||Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu for instructions


Well, it worked , I think Dannielle?
Got Boinc up and running, connected to local host anyways,just need to "reatach"
to the new accounts?Let me know.I let er go cause "no output" from { ps axu | grep boinc}Looks like my system is not "right" though?I see another error in my typing for auth,cfg should be auth.cfg, Dohh, its late ,will try again.
WTG {way to go}
Doug

Good news also, Climate finnaly "Tricked" some Ram up,LOLWill try command again Sunday morning Danniele.

Thanks
Doug
Sat Oct 28 20:17:43 2006|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi
Sat Oct 28 20:17:43 2006|climateprediction.net|Reason: To send trickle-up message
Sat Oct 28 20:17:43 2006|climateprediction.net|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
Sat Oct 28 20:17:47 2006|climateprediction.net|Scheduler request succeeded
Sat Oct 28 20:30:31 2006||Rescheduling CPU: project resumed by user
Sat Oct 28 20:30:31 2006|climateprediction.net|Pausing task hadcm3lbm_blbb_25310106_0 (left in memory)
Sat Oct 28 20:30:31 2006|malariacontrol.net beta|Resuming task wu_11_234_10909_0_1466576549_1 using malariacontrol version 543

OK last night I installed big daddy into a virtual machine. It seems to be working ok. Boinc is @ about 9% of D@H wu.


Here is what I did to get it working.
Note that commands are in between "" (do not copy these "" just whatever is inside)

1. Download Boinc using the link at http://docking.utep.edu

2. Once in the download directory... (If using firefox default is /home/<user>/Desktop (substitute <user> by your user name))

3. run the following command:
"chmod 777 boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh"

4. run the following command:
"./chmod 777 boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh"

5. run the following command:
"cd BOINC/"

6.
a) run the following command:
"nano run_client"
b) inside the editor on the top line a type the following:
ulimit -s unlimited
c) hit the keys ctrl x (hold ctrl key and hit x)
d) nano will ask if you want to write the file
press y (y means yes in this case)
e) run the following command:
"nohup ./run_client &"
f) run the following command:
"nohup ./run_manager &"

7. gui will appear so now just attached to project as usual


Thats it if you follow those steps one by one you will be up and running in 15 minutes. Keep in mind that thats a fresh boinc install. If already installed start at step 6, but I really recommend you to reinstall boinc will assure us that you have those same files. Let me know if you encounter difficulties, try to copy and paste the commands and anything that you have to paste, this way you dont forget any space.

Ok Doug, now there's Memo helping you :)
Anyway, it seems you have done very well yesterday, compliments!
That sequence is correct, as you can see everything is working, if the manager can't connect (I didn't understand) the problem is only the password.

The password is the one in file gui_rpc_auth.cfg
so you only need to do this, if you have problems with the manager claiming for the right password (this is true and useful in many cases, also good for the future)

1) BEFORE starting the client, open the gui_rpc_auth.cfg file in kedit
and delete the old password. Substitute it with an empty string, followed by ENTER (important, every password, the blank one too, is followed by enter).
Save and close the file.
2) start the client and the manager with the sequence

./run_client -redirectio -dir /home/doug/BOINC
cat gui_rpc_auth.cfg (JUST TO SEE IF THE PASSWORD IS THE ONE YOU HAVE SET)
./run_manager --verbose


Should be all :)

Now, and this is always true, if you want to add something like

ulimit etc etc

just stop the client, kedit the run_client script and add the commands in the first lines.
Save and run the client and the manager.

If this works, to create a desktop link to run the client the right way is very simple.

Just to finish the work, anyway now there's Memo and all things will be ok :)

By Doug, so nice to have met you.

Well, it worked , I think Dannielle?
Got Boinc up and running, connected to local host anyways,just need to "reatach"
to the new accounts?Let me know.

OK last night I installed big daddy into a virtual machine.

OK last night I installed big daddy into a virtual machine.

I LOVE brute force approaches :D
Good work Memo, now take Doug to the goal, maybe a clean install is the best thing in this case.

OK last night I installed big daddy into a virtual machine. It seems to be working ok. Boinc is @ about 9% of D@H wu.


Here is what I did to get it working.
Note that commands are in between "" (do not copy these "" just whatever is inside)

1. Download Boinc using the link at http://docking.utep.edu

2. Once in the download directory... (If using firefox default is /home/<user>/Desktop (substitute <user> by your user name))

3. run the following command:
"chmod 777 boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh"

4. run the following command:
"./chmod 777 boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh"

5. run the following command:
"cd BOINC/"

6.
a) run the following command:
"nano run_client"
b) inside the editor on the top line a type the following:
ulimit -s unlimited
c) hit the keys ctrl x (hold ctrl key and hit x)
d) nano will ask if you want to write the file
press y (y means yes in this case)
e) run the following command:
"nohup ./run_client &"
f) run the following command:
"nohup ./run_manager &"

7. gui will appear so now just attached to project as usual


Thats it if you follow those steps one by one you will be up and running in 15 minutes. Keep in mind that thats a fresh boinc install. If already installed start at step 6, but I really recommend you to reinstall boinc will assure us that you have those same files. Let me know if you encounter difficulties, try to copy and paste the commands and anything that you have to paste, this way you dont forget any space.

I am thinking the best way to do this is a complete reinstall of this system, so the file system is clean.Will the new download overwrite my old Boinc Files?
If so wonder if Manager problem will continue?

OK last night I installed big daddy into a virtual machine. It seems to be working ok. Boinc is @ about 9% of D@H wu.


Here is what I did to get it working.
Note that commands are in between "" (do not copy these "" just whatever is inside)

1. Download Boinc using the link at http://docking.utep.edu

2. Once in the download directory... (If using firefox default is /home/<user>/Desktop (substitute <user> by your user name))

3. run the following command:
"chmod 777 boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh"

4. run the following command:
"./chmod 777 boinc_5.4.9_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh"

5. run the following command:
"cd BOINC/"

6.
a) run the following command:
"nano run_client"
b) inside the editor on the top line a type the following:
ulimit -s unlimited
c) hit the keys ctrl x (hold ctrl key and hit x)
d) nano will ask if you want to write the file
press y (y means yes in this case)
e) run the following command:
"nohup ./run_client &"
f) run the following command:
"nohup ./run_manager &"

7. gui will appear so now just attached to project as usual


Thats it if you follow those steps one by one you will be up and running in 15 minutes. Keep in mind that thats a fresh boinc install. If already installed start at step 6, but I really recommend you to reinstall boinc will assure us that you have those same files. Let me know if you encounter difficulties, try to copy and paste the commands and anything that you have to paste, this way you dont forget any space.

Thanks Memo,
I am thinking the best way to do this is a complete reinstall of this system, so the file system is clean.Will the new download overwrite my old Boinc Files?
If so wonder if Manager problem will continue? I could delete all Boinc realted files in Home , keep home clean.Would take about 3 hours for complete install
setting-up the partitions {lots of fun} now I have done it 6 times.Would deleteing all old Boinc related files be wrong or harmful to do?
Regarding where to download, usually I download too, desktop, cut, and put in home, home is user? What is a virtual machine?Usually I make the download an "executable" and would assume I do the same with this method of install? I am going to do this cause 35
days of no crunching for Docking makes we want it more!
By installing Boinc this way will Boinc start at Boot?, and how do I start it
if not at Boot?And to install the new Boinc, use a Linux Console, or,the Linux
"Shell"?
That is all the info I need to do a good job, for once,{blush}

Sincerely, and thank you Memo

Doug

GNU nano 1.3.11 File: run_client Modified


ulimit -s unlimited
cd "/home/doug/BOINC" && exec ./boinc $@
















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^G Get Help ^O WriteOut ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text ^C Cur Pos
^X Exit ^J Justify ^W Where Is ^V Next Page ^U UnCut Txt ^T To Spell


Got this far, still have not downloaded new BOINC, today, but later today, am going from line #6, the w/u I tryed after this got further than any other , but, need to complete the commands, tried pushing Y to get a new file, nothing happened, its me, will try and try and try till I get this.Thanks so much for the help from all. especially Memo, Dave, Danniele, and Andre, the w/u got over 5% wheras usual 3.25%, means nada till I do the completed commands.

Thank you

Doug
bash-3.00$ nohup ./run_client
nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
nohup ./run_manager &
Thinking this may have done something?

Hello,
Can I delete
the "old" Boinc files as to not make a mess? Before I download the new Boinc?

Sincerely

Doug

Hello,
Can I delete
the "old" Boinc files as to not make a mess? Before I download the new Boinc?

Sincerely

Doug

Probably debian mantainers choosen such high limits because the debian structure is very coherent and stable, so it's not a problem (in fact it's not).

Sorry if I can't stay more time on the problem, I've a very difficult exam in few days!

Probably debian mantainers choosen such high limits because the debian structure is very coherent and stable, so it's not a problem (in fact it's not).

Sorry if I can't stay more time on the problem, I've a very difficult exam in few days!

No problem. Thanks for the help.

I'm still working on it. I pulled the source of the stable boinc client from CVS and found that when it starts a process, it does a fork and then the forked thread does an execv() to start the new program on Linux. I don't know for sure if the program that is started with execv() gets the limits of the boinc client or gets the default limits of the user it is running as. This could mean that even if the boinc client has unlimited stack, that the application for Docking@Home gets the default limits for the user.

I've tracked down several places in RedHat RHEL3 where some limits are set for processes during startup, based on the user it is running as. I've now modified every one of those I could track down and modified the service startup code in /etc/init.d/boinc. The following files had to be modified.

/etc/profile
/etc/bashrc
/etc/profile.d/limits.sh
/etc/profile.d/limits.csh

The ~/.bashrc doesn't have a ulimit command in it since it executes /etc/bashrc.

When it gets the next Docking@Home work unit, we'll see if this fixed the problem. I was able to change the limits for a specific user so that they are in effect at login, so hopefully they'll stick when the Docking@Home application starts, whether it gets the default limits for the user it's running as or inherits them from the boinc client.

Thanks,

-- David

Thanks,

-- David

As far as I know a child process contains all of the same info as the parent with the exception of PID and that sort of things. I would assume that execv() will have the unlimited soft stack option, unless I don't remember my OS class. Will check my notes and edit this post to include the things that change from parent to child process in forking...

As far as I know a child process contains all of the same info as the parent with the exception of PID and that sort of things. I would assume that execv() will have the unlimited soft stack option, unless I don't remember my OS class. Will check my notes and edit this post to include the things that change from parent to child process in forking...

I remember the same thing as you, the problem is that in my class nobody spoke about ulimit, too difficult a matter for a simple OS class.
Anyway, it's not really true that those are the only differences between a child and its parent, so it could be that the `unlimited stack` won't be inherited (is it the right word in english?).

Moreover (and anyway :D), I'm pretty sure that ulimit only applies to shell instances and sons, so it could be that a user who has unlimited stack on the login shell (or on the first interactive shell), has unlimited stack on other shell instances too.

Falling back to electronics... I hate numerical filters...

Here is some information on fork() and exec()

http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=370047&seqNum=2&rl=1

bash-3.00$ nohup ./run_client &
[1] 3054
bash-3.00$ nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
nohup: cannot run command `./run_client': Permission denied
nohup ./run_client &
nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
nohup: cannot run command `./run_client': Permission denied
[2] 3055
[1] Exit 126 nohup ./run_client
[2] Exit 126 nohup ./run_client
bash-3.00$ nohup ./run_manager &
nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
nohup: cannot run command `./run_manager': No such file or directory
[1] 3056
[1] Exit 127 nohup ./run_manager
bash-3.00$

Hello Memo,all
I get this all the time I do-it, seems run_client never "takes", so it is the install.?Guessing, Will study more on this systems commands, due to failures.
Get as far as yes then after first command after getting into Nano.
Each time I have to "reboot" cause it will not attach to network due to wrong password, and donnot understand the way to change that also.Been working this weekend and this week due to a film crew, and,WORK, am unable to try the commands as often as time gives me, but
will not give up.I just saw the " " on run_manager, will do this by hand.
Thanks
Doug Worrall

Have been studying this system, Went to Repository, and installed this xtra
program to compliment the Bash type one, I use.Was thinking that maybe with this,
new commands may be in order.Will try steps 6 trhough now with this "aboard"
Memo.

Documentation for the GNU Bourne Again shell (bash)
Bash is a GNU project sh-compatible shell or command language
interpreter. Bash (Bourne Again shell) incorporates useful features
from the Korn shell (ksh) and the C shell (csh). Most sh scripts
can be run by bash without modification.

Bash offers several improvements over sh, including command line
editing, unlimited size command history, job control, shell
functions and aliases, indexed arrays of unlimited size and
integer arithmetic in any base from two to 64. Bash is ultimately
intended to conform to the IEEE POSIX P1003.2/ISO 9945.2 Shell and
Tools standard.

Bash is the default shell for Mandriva Linux. You should install
bash because of its popularity and power. You'll probably end up
using it.

This package include doc guid examples and manual for zsh.

I have no idea what this may do to help, Just wanted to let you know, I have not, nor, will I give-up."hoping" this will stop those errors right at the beginning of the session.

Thanks All
Doug

Hello,
Have a charm w/u running on a a new attached to project Boinc.The charm w/u is at 9.6% done, and 22 minutes in, does this sound correct?Followed all the steps that Memo put out for me, am leaving console up, last time I closed it I lost the Boinc from Running.Checked Ksgaurd, and, Boinc is running and Manager is attached to local host.Have everything saved, but, How do I start this Boinc up again? I fear
turning it off, and losing it?

Yhanks
Doug

Hello,
Have a charm w/u running on a a new attached to project Boinc.The charm w/u is at 9.6% done, and 22 minutes in, does this sound correct?

Hello,
Have a charm w/u running on a a new attached to project Boinc.The charm w/u is at 9.6% done, and 22 minutes in, does this sound correct?

When I had errors in my WUs, no one showed after 11 minutes, most of the times it took 8-9 minutes to stop the execution :)

Hello,
Have a charm w/u running on a a new attached to project Boinc.The charm w/u is at 9.6% done, and 22 minutes in, does this sound correct?

When I had errors in my WUs, no one showed after 11 minutes, most of the times it took 8-9 minutes to stop the execution :)

This one is 14.612% after 40 minutes any take?
Thanks
Dannielle
Doug

Keep us informed, I'm worried about this WU's life.

Hello,
Have a charm w/u running on a a new attached to project Boinc.The charm w/u is at 9.6% done, and 22 minutes in, does this sound correct?

When I had errors in my WUs, no one showed after 11 minutes, most of the times it took 8-9 minutes to stop the execution :)

This one is 14.612% after 40 minutes any take?
Thanks
Dannielle
Doug

You have scored this goal!

GOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL

Good job Doug and Memo :D

How would I restart this #2 Boinc, without the Climate Model. which I donnot care about, if this continues to work, and not error out.Should I save the Konsole session?Still is up now?Have saved all the outputs,etc..,
Its now 17% 50 minutes, are the w/u that stable? and accurate?

How would I restart this #2 Boinc, without the Climate Model. which I donnot care about, if this continues to work, and not error out.Should I save the Konsole session?Still is up now?Have saved all the outputs,etc..,
Its now 17% 50 minutes, are the w/u that stable? and accurate?

I have not followed the last posts because of the exam, so I don't exactly what you have done on your system. Memo will have the right answer to this question.

After solving this "stack's problem" my WUs were all crunched without any errors, so I hope they will behave the same on your system.